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  • #16
    The only shelters I've ever seen in Oklahoma were carried by federal Foresty guys that were helping when the whole state burned in 2006.

    How effective are shelters on a grass fire? I've seen the training videos on deploying them on forest fires, but never for a grass fire.
    Bryan Beall
    Silver City, Oklahoma USA

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    • #17
      Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
      Actually, in NJ you are only required to wear a shelter on federal land. The state does not issue shelters to anyone, there are some kept on the apparatus.

      Wow...thats a new one on me. We've been required to carry them on every fire for the last 5 or so years. Try calling the Trenton office with that and see what they say.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Deputy10D9 View Post
        Wow...thats a new one on me. We've been required to carry them on every fire for the last 5 or so years. Try calling the Trenton office with that and see what they say.
        I've been with the FFS for 21 years, and in the northern part of the state it's still acceptable to wear jeans on the fireline. Shelters, definitly not required.
        I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

        "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

        "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SilverCity4 View Post
          The only shelters I've ever seen in Oklahoma were carried by federal Foresty guys that were helping when the whole state burned in 2006.

          How effective are shelters on a grass fire? I've seen the training videos on deploying them on forest fires, but never for a grass fire.

          I havn't ever deployed a shelter, (have co-workers that have, and I've been close, knock on wood), so this is all what I've learned and theory. Yes shelters work in grass fires under the same principles as in wooded areas, reflecting radiant heat and protecting breathable air inside the shelter.

          I am shocked to hear that fire shelters are not required by all personnel on the fireline. If anyone has seen this, and knows why their particlular state does this, in Nevada you can't step foot on a fire without a shelter. Thanks.
          -Tradition-
          Just because you've always done it that way doesn't mean it's not incredibly stupid.

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