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  • #16
    Originally posted by mdarmistead View Post
    Different gel products obviously have different formulations. Some products contain petroleum distillates (deodorized kerosene, for one) some use mineral oil, a petroleum by-product as a suspension medium. Some of the surfactants used are also toxic. These products do have the possibility to produce property damage in certain situations.

    Barricade II by Barricade International doesn't have petroleum distillates or NPEs. It has received an EPA Champion Award. Barricade II Fire Blocking Gel has been recognized by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency for its environmentally friendly formula through the use of safer surfactants and for its efforts in documenting a strategy for ensuring that only safer surfactants are used.

    Don't judge all firefighting gels from one bad experience.

    Check out the FAQ at http://firegel.com
    It sounds like you sell the stuff.
    FF/Paramedic

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    • #17
      Tnff39

      SO?? Your point is? MY point was that you shouldn't base all future experiences on one bad experience. Get the facts about a family of products before you condemn it as a whole.

      Originally posted by architectbuildr View Post
      Yea, we fed that truck with water. The gel leaked on the ground, ate the asphalt, removed the paint from one of the structures, and they had a very hard time getting it to come off. It was a mess. Not sure how it all came out in the end. I'd rather use foam. JMO.
      This statement is about one particular brand of gel One that contains petroleum distillates which can harm asphalt and paint. Not all gels have these compounds in them.

      Other factors come into play as well. Was the gel applied properly? The proper concentration? Was it allowed to dry on the structure? Did removal attempts include properly re-hydrating the gel before attempting to remove it?
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      • #18
        Maybe you should have let a 1.5 year old thread lay to rest....

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        • #19
          Gels overrated

          When we first started distributing fire prevention/supression systems, we were very excited about the gels. However, the more we learned the more we are moving away from them. Here is some info on CAFS vs. Gel: (1)foam can be used to supress the fire, provides protection, and creates fire breaks while gel is ONLY for protection. (2) foam is easy to clean up and washes away easily with water while gel requires a pressure washer and extended clean up time. (3) Class A foam has minimal or non existent enviromental issues while gel has issues of longevity in the environment and leaves an enduring coat on wood. (4) Class A foam has a shelf life of 20 years while gel has a significantly lower shelf life. (5) Foam concentration is lower (.5%) and is less costly to operate while gel requires a higher concentration 5% and higher and is very costly. (6) Foam reduces surface tension of water allowing it to penetrate deeper into fuel when extinguishing a fire while gel forms a surface over fuels and has minimal penetration. It is not used to fight fire.

          That about did it for me as far as gels are concerned. We still sell them if that is what the customer wants but advise against it. The company we distribute for just invented the RoboCAF which is a self contained, programmable, exterior foam system. It will spray foam at preset increments until the water source is depleated. A home owner can evacuate and turn it on as they drive out the driveway, and it will protect until it is shut off or the water is out. Pretty effective system. castledefensefoam@gmail.com

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