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  • #46
    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
    It is the GOP who have been making the claim that Obama isn't qualified to be president because of his lack of experience and short tenure as an elected official and his being an unknown.
    And up until Wednesday night, Bill Clinton and others in the Democratic party made the same claims.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Catch22 View Post
      And up until Wednesday night, Bill Clinton and others in the Democratic party made the same claims.
      Primaries are family feuds. As I pointed out earlier, Coulter and Limbaugh both stated their disdain for McCain in support of Romney. Coulter went so far as to say she would vote for Hillary before she voted for McCain.

      Both groups have changed course.

      And you have no idea how much it cracks me up to hear conservatives using the Clintons to reinforce their arguments.
      They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

      I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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      • #48
        One more. I find this one most interesting, as it includes comments from the on-line pubic.


        FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:

        All we have heard from John McCain for months is, “Barack Obama is too young. Barack Obama is too inexperienced to be commander-in-chief. Who do you want answering the phone in the White House at three a.m.? Blah, blah, blah.”

        So what does McCain do? He picks someone to be his running mate who is even younger than Barack Obama and has less experience.

        Sara Palin is 44 – Obama is 47. Sara Palin is in her first term as governor of Alaska, a state that has 13 people and some caribou. Obama is a member of the United States Senate from Illinois.

        It’s not a big deal, except for this: If McCain wins, he will be the oldest person ever inaugurated for a first term at 72. He has a history of health problems that include bouts of melanoma, a potentially deadly form of skin cancer. It is reasonable to consider that McCain’s running mate could be called upon to be our president.

        Meanwhile, some may see this as a move for McCain to attract disaffected women who voted for Hillary Clinton and aren’t yet behind Obama. But that might not work for a few reasons: Palin, like McCain, is pro-life. Also, she might be a woman, but she’s no Hillary Clinton – when it comes to her experience or her ideology.

        At some point, voters will have to ask themselves who they would want running the country if it ever became necessary: Joe Biden or Sarah Palin.

        Here’s my question to you: Does John McCain undercut his own message by naming someone even younger and more inexperienced than Barack Obama to be his running mate?

        Interested to know which ones made it on air?


        Rebecca from Santa Barbara, California writes:
        As a life-long Republican soccer mom living in an affluent community, I was impressed with Senator Obama’s acceptance speech last evening. Having my morning latte with a few of my Republican friends, I almost spit my coffee out when I heard the news. Is McCain really putting the best interests of our nation first? To me, he is pandering to women, trying to obtain their vote. It seems he wants another ‘trophy’ to parade around with. What is wrong with this man?

        Dave writes:
        Jack, The fact that absolutely no one in or around her or McCain’s inner circle had not even the smallest clue this would happen shows it was a last minute, desperation pick. McCain is falling all over himself after the Dems’ convention and grasping at straws.

        Mitch from Michigan writes:
        I think McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as V.P. is very similar to Bush’s nomination of Harriet Miers to the Supreme Court. It shows how much a McCain presidency would be like the Bush presidency with the selection of totally unqualified individuals for government posts. We’ve seen the disastrous results of such picks by Bush. We can not let McCain continue this saga.

        Horatio writes:
        These negative comments about Palin’s inexperience are hilarious. She’s a whopping 3 years younger than Obama, and has about the same amount of experience (his in the legislature, hers in the executive). If she’s an irresponsible choice, Obama as president is even worse — since he’s at the top of the ticket! Palin is a great balance for the ticket: young, smart, and has an independent streak a mile wide.

        Christine writes:
        I am a true-blue Hillary supporter, but I am sure Hillary did not mean to put 18 million cracks in the glass ceiling so that a pro-life, pro-gun, home-schooling nobody from the frozen tundra of Alaska could slide in. Go Obama.

        Doug writes:
        Had I known that being a hockey mom, being under 45, and having virtually no political experience was the desired VP running mate for McCain, I would have asked my wife to throw her hat into the ring… McCain has just handed the presidency to Obama.

        Meagan writes:
        Cafferty, For once, and probably the only time, I actually agree with you. Better than I could’ve said it.

        Glenn writes:
        It was a bold move by John McCain to reach out to the Eskimo vote, which has been totally ignored by the media.
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        • #49
          Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
          Primaries are family feuds. As I pointed out earlier, Coulter and Limbaugh both stated their disdain for McCain in support of Romney. Coulter went so far as to say she would vote for Hillary before she voted for McCain.
          I agree, except for the fact that the Clinton's are very much the democratic party, and Coulter is nothing but a noise machine.
          Love them or hate them, the Clinton's represent the presidency and senate in their resumes. That is a huge factor, in my opinion. Coulter is really nothing more than a wind bag, with no true factor in our government.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Dave1983 View Post
            Palin a first-term governor of a state with more reindeer than people, will have to put on a few pounds just to be a lightweight. Her personal story is impressive: former fisherman, mother of five. But that hardly qualifies her to be a heartbeat away from the presidency.
            My wife was watching TV this morning and somehow Kathy Lee Gifford was asked about Palin's selection as VP. Gifford's response was, "has she ever been out of Alaska?"

            I thought it was a very interesting and appropriate question.
            They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

            I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by jasper45 View Post
              I agree, except for the fact that the Clinton's are very much the democratic party....
              And they have thrown their full support in behind Obama.
              They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

              I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by Dave1983 View Post
                One more. I find this one most interesting, as it includes comments from the on-line pubic.
                I'm sorry, I got tickled over this one. That's not a Fruedian slip, is it? I know it rings of some of my opinion on some of the online posters out there.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Catch22 View Post
                  I'm sorry, I got tickled over this one. That's not a Fruedian slip, is it? I know it rings of some of my opinion on some of the online posters out there.
                  Oh my...

                  I need to ease up on the grape juice.
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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                    Is also reported to be pregnant and single.
                    Source Please.

                    If anyone wants more details of the stuff going on in AK, read more at the Anchorage Daily News.
                    Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
                    She is tough on corruption and that picture of her holding the AR15 sold me!
                    For the record, that's not an AR-15, it an M4.
                    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                    You mean like the time you tried to claim the decline in the price of oil was the direct result of Bush's lifting the ban on offshore drilling? That was hysterical.
                    Not as hysterical as your assertion that it had ZERO impact on prices.
                    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                    My wife was watching TV this morning and somehow Kathy Lee Gifford was asked about Palin's selection as VP. Gifford's response was, "has she ever been out of Alaska?"

                    I thought it was a very interesting and appropriate question.
                    Remind me again how many media outlets carry KLG's opinions for their political worth? That's like asking Obama or McCain what kind of shoes to wear to a Bridal Rehearsal Dinner.
                    Last edited by txgp17; 08-29-2008, 07:34 PM.
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                    • #55
                      Lets see.... in the last year...

                      I am nearing broke...

                      my job doesnt pay sh1t...

                      and my insurance sucks...

                      but I took a 40k pay cut to come to my current job so thats my fault...

                      I like his pick. I'm not big on Obama BUT thats besides the point...

                      McCain picked someone who exposes and FIGHTS corruption and is for cutting high government salaries...

                      that right there says a lot.

                      Experience wise, she may not have a lot as others might. I do think the Joe Liberman would have been the wisest choice but give it time to find out what she is like.
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
                        Source Please.
                        AM Radio. While tuning the dial. Probably a wack job for all I know.

                        Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
                        Not as hysterical as your assertion that it had ZERO impact on prices.
                        You or George have yet to prove it had any impact. There is not one commodities broker who deals in oil futures claiming it to be related.

                        Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
                        Remind me again how many media outlets carry KLG's opinions for their political worth?
                        She's allowed an opinion just like anyone else. I believe it is a valid question.
                        They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

                        I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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                        • #57
                          I am WAY better off then 8 years ago. Salary is doubled, house is still doubled what I bought it for... but I don't give credit to anyone but myself.

                          Seriously. Perhaps i'm slightly better off by a few hundred bucks because of some changes to the tax laws.

                          As for the experience issue... she has more executive experience. Being a legislator is a whole different experience.

                          I'd rather have an inexperienced VPOTUS than an inexperienced POTUS.

                          And as for Obama claiming to have the edge on "change", I think that McCain can claim that. This is A TRUE washington outsider, short of selecting a tribal leader from Guam, don't know how you can get someone more outside the beltway. I personally think that's a good thing.

                          I also like that she may seem to represent regular americans better. As far as VEEP picks, she is much closer to the everday american than the Senator who has been in the senate for as long as she's been alive (or thereabouts).

                          Both candidates made some interesting choices. This should be a fun couple of months.
                          I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
                            For the record, that's not an AR-15, it an M4.
                            Hey, at least I didn't call it an AK47 or an M16.

                            Either way, it's NRA Sexy!
                            I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                            "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                            "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
                              As for the experience issue... she has more executive experience. Being a legislator is a whole different experience.

                              I'd rather have an inexperienced VPOTUS than an inexperienced POTUS.
                              These are both jokes right? Her political experience is two whole years of one of the least populous states in the country and mayor of a town of 6,500. I guess that now constitutes "executive" experience. Who knew? This rationalization of her "executive" experience is mind boggling.


                              She's spent the majority of her time in AK and has no idea about life in the lower 48.

                              Being president is arguably one of the most complex jobs in human history. No one has stated what strengths she brings to the ticket. In my opinion she takes away all the strong points McCain was using to hit Obama. Plus he still has all his weaknesses.
                              Last edited by scfire86; 08-29-2008, 09:14 PM.
                              They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

                              I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                                My wife was watching TV this morning and somehow Kathy Lee Gifford was asked about Palin's selection as VP. Gifford's response was, "has she ever been out of Alaska?"

                                I thought it was a very interesting and appropriate question.
                                She made it to Iraq before Obama did.

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