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  • The problem with the Democrats is that when the Republicans come up with a good idea they will still disagree. They can't put away their political bias long enough to think straight.

    The Democrat's way of thinking goes something like this. The Republicans want off-shore drilling, I'm a Democrat and must oppose, even if it is the right thing to do.

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    • Originally posted by Raughammer1 View Post
      To millions of Americans he is very much a mover and shaker in the poltical arena.
      Where? What influence does he currently exert in the political arena? I can't think of one issue where he is regarded as the policy expert.
      They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

      I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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      • Originally posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
        The problem with the Democrats is that when the Republicans come up with a good idea they will still disagree. They can't put away their political bias long enough to think straight.

        The Democrat's way of thinking goes something like this. The Republicans want off-shore drilling, I'm a Democrat and must oppose, even if it is the right thing to do.
        I love the fact you continue to make idiotic statements. Full speed ahead.
        They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

        I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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        • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
          I love the fact you continue to make idiotic statements. Full speed ahead.
          My friend, that doesn't apply to jsut the Democrats, The Republicans do it as well.

          Take drilling for oil off-shore or in AMWR. The democrats opposed it 10 years ago. Now, here we are 10 years later, and they still oppose it. One of the reasons they give, it will take 10 years. SO, if we hadn't listened to them 10 years ago we would be seeing that oil now. But because the Republican want t oopen up more drilling areas, the Democrats feel obligated to oppose it, even though it is the right thing to do.

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          • Originally posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
            My friend, that doesn't apply to jsut the Democrats, The Republicans do it as well.

            Take drilling for oil off-shore or in AMWR. The democrats opposed it 10 years ago. Now, here we are 10 years later, and they still oppose it. One of the reasons they give, it will take 10 years. SO, if we hadn't listened to them 10 years ago we would be seeing that oil now. But because the Republican want t oopen up more drilling areas, the Democrats feel obligated to oppose it, even though it is the right thing to do.
            Always the fall back for the desperate. The oil companies get it. I have yet to hear of them clamoring for the ability to drill where they can not unless they are subsidized.

            Once again I state the reality of the only offshore drilling locale that prevented them was off the coast of FL during the tenure of the enviro wacko Jeb Bush.
            They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

            I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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            • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
              Always the fall back for the desperate. The oil companies get it. I have yet to hear of them clamoring for the ability to drill where they can not unless they are subsidized.

              Once again I state the reality of the only offshore drilling locale that prevented them was off the coast of FL during the tenure of the enviro wacko Jeb Bush.
              Even if they were clamoring to drill, how are they going to refine it? We can't build a refinery in this country anymore.

              Besides, how can we blame Corporate America for being addicted to subsidies. It's basically welfare for business, and we all know what it's like getting someone off of welfare; it's only going to happen to those who want off of it.

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              • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                Bummer. But Clinton beats all the GOP challengers.

                I know that's a shock to you, but the truth always is. And that doesn't even include the record deficits Reagan left as his legacy.

                http://www.cato.org/pubs/tbb/tbb-0510-26.pdf
                Clinton didn't have to fight Terrorism like Bush did. That alone doesn't explain his high spending. His reluctance to veto pork barrel spending is the biggest cause. And about Clinton, the federal surpluses during his administration in the late 1990s only occurred after the newly elected Republican Congress imposed strict spending limitations and the capital gains tax rate was cut by Congress and signed into law by President Clinton. I know that's a shock to you, but the truth always is. Now the bigger question why didn't congress limit Bush the same way.
                Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                Always the fall back for the desperate. The oil companies get it. I have yet to hear of them clamoring for the ability to drill where they can not unless they are subsidized.
                The Oil Companies continue to pay the leases on thousands of wells that aren't classified as "producing". Are you so naive to assume they would suddenly halt oil operations in the US if we stopped subsidizing them?
                Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                Once again I state the reality of the only offshore drilling locale that prevented them was off the coast of FL during the tenure of the enviro wacko Jeb Bush.
                What bearing does that have on the discussion? If you're referring to the OCS, the areas of the OCS are under the jurisdiction of the Federal Government, not the States. And even if Jeb wanted to drill there, there was Federal executive policy in place (thanx to his Dad) that prohibited it (now lifted, thanx to his Brother). And even if that executive policy was lifted while Jeb was still Governor, there is Federal Legislation that prohibits it.
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                • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                  Where? What influence does he currently exert in the political arena? I can't think of one issue where he is regarded as the policy expert.
                  (trying real hard not to belittle you here amigo)

                  SC, Newt runs a conservative think tank and exerts a huge HUGE amount of influence on current republican policy. The whole "drill here-drill now-pay less" came via his direct influence on the party. Here in Houston during the GOP convention his name was everywhere and on everything it seemed.

                  Perhaps you do not get the NRSC newsletter, or the GOP's....but Newts: Winning the Future through Human Events newsletter has been very influential in the current political debate and is highly respected in political circles.

                  SC, perhaps you do not subscribe to the same circles of discourse that conservatives do but i assure you Newt is far from being non-influential.


                  See ya.
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                  • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                    Where? What influence does he currently exert in the political arena? I can't think of one issue where he is regarded as the policy expert.
                    Isn't he talking about Barrack OsAma?????

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                    • [QUOTE=scfire86;981889]Always the fall back for the desperate. The oil companies get it. I have yet to hear of them clamoring for the ability to drill where they can not unless they are subsidized.

                      Once again I state the reality of the only offshore drilling locale that prevented them was off the coast of FL during the tenure of the enviro wacko Jeb Bush.[/QUOTE

                      Don't forget the coast of California that has been restricted for years from newer drilling.
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                      • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                        Always the fall back for the desperate. The oil companies get it. I have yet to hear of them clamoring for the ability to drill where they can not unless they are subsidized.

                        Once again I state the reality of the only offshore drilling locale that prevented them was off the coast of FL during the tenure of the enviro wacko Jeb Bush.

                        So,tell us.How intelligent is it to tax oil companies to pay for a $1,000 rebate to the taxpayers to buy fuel?
                        All it's doing is taking money FROM the oil companies so the public can give it right BACK to the oil companies.
                        Barack Obama is a snake oil salesman if that gets done.

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                        • Originally posted by doughesson View Post
                          So,tell us.How intelligent is it to tax oil companies to pay for a $1,000 rebate to the taxpayers to buy fuel?
                          All it's doing is taking money FROM the oil companies so the public can give it right BACK to the oil companies.
                          Barack Obama is a snake oil salesman if that gets done.
                          Considering the billions oil companies currently receive via subsidies and credits it's probably a brilliant move on their part.
                          They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

                          I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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                          • Considering the billions oil companies currently receive via subsidies and credits it's probably a brilliant move on their part.
                            Does this include the billions of dollars in taxes they pay each quarter?

                            We always talk about how much profit an oil company makes each quarter, and then criticize them, but does anyone know or even realize how much in corporate taxes they currently pay each quarter?

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                            • Originally posted by jasper45 View Post
                              Does this include the billions of dollars in taxes they pay each quarter?
                              What difference does that make? I pay taxes and no one subsidizes me. Do they not benefit from doing business in this country?

                              Originally posted by jasper45 View Post
                              We always talk about how much profit an oil company makes each quarter, and then criticize them, but does anyone know or even realize how much in corporate taxes they currently pay each quarter?
                              You bring up an interesting point. Business always complains about high wages (unless it is the folks at the top) but they never complain about high profits.

                              I bet you still believe "free" market forces are in effect in this industry. Don't you?
                              They told me if I voted for Hillary Clinton the president would be emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable. They were right. I voted for Hillary Clinton and got a president that is emotional, impulsive, and unpredictable.

                              I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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                              • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                                What difference does that make? I pay taxes and no one subsidizes me.
                                Wait, you didn't get your check? I'm sure you returned your stimulus check as you are so opposed to subsidies...
                                I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                                "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                                "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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