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  • #91
    Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
    I didn't invoke it, Obama did when he slipped up and told the truth about how he feels about taxation. The truth hurts doesn't it?




    And that's not a law. It's a theory. The fact of you not knowing the difference is no surprise.

    What's even more hilarious is the fact that you're using ideas of a lawyer from San Francisco, CA to defend the gaff of the most left-wing Homosapien to run for President in 219 years.

    New jobs are not created by taking money from the pockets of those people most responsible for a business's existence. Obama's idea of how an economy works is as perverted as yours is.There's an old slogan about "no taxation without representation." Obama wants to take it a step further by providing the converse; representation without taxation.
    From this time forward I am going to post random patriotic quotes on here eveytime some lunatic posts random crap on here about Osama being a terrorist, a criminal, a low-life, a tax cheat, a communist, or a socialist.

    So here we go "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." ~Benjamin Franklin

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Geinandputitout View Post
      From this time forward I am going to post random patriotic quotes on here eveytime some lunatic posts random crap on here about Osama being a terrorist, a criminal, a low-life, a tax cheat, a communist, or a socialist.

      So here we go "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." ~Benjamin Franklin
      It wasn't random. It's Obama's own words.

      I guess you have to revert to random patriotic quotes because you have nothing to defend his long-term associations with racists, terrorists, tax cheates, and socialists.

      And since you like random quotes, here's one for you:

      "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs."
      Last edited by txgp17; 10-20-2008, 11:10 AM.
      The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --Norman Mattoon Thomas, 6 time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America

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      • #93
        The truth hurts doesn't it?
        Hell, no...it feels good. It's time for all the tax-cheating, un-American rich *******s to start paying their fair share.
        Member IACOJ

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        • #94
          Originally posted by ThNozzleman View Post
          Hell, no...it feels good. It's time for all the tax-cheating, un-American rich *******s to start paying their fair share.
          What exactly is their fair share? And what do we do with those that pay nothing? Is nothing their fair share?
          To err is human, To forgive divine and at times I am as much of both as you will ever find

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          • #95
            Originally posted by ThNozzleman View Post
            Hell, no...it feels good. It's time for all the tax-cheating, un-American rich *******s to start paying their fair share.
            Substantiate your claim that the rich are not paying their fair share.

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            The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --Norman Mattoon Thomas, 6 time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America

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            • #96
              Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
              Substantiate your claim that the rich are not paying their fair share.

              Now THAT was funny!
              01.20.13
              Change We Can Believe In.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by txgp17 View Post
                It wasn't random. It's Obama's own words.
                Please tell me that you DID notice the fact that there were at least 3 cuts during that 10 second clip to make his message fit into the Fox News agenda?

                I can go through your last 10 posts and then cut and paste 1 sentence parts out of them to make you say whatever it is that you want me to say.

                Find some transcripts of the whole conversation and after you listen to it all decide what you want to think.

                If you guys would fight fire the same way you handle politics than recruit training could be reduced from weeks and months to a 10 second sound-bite. "Here, but the wet stuff on the hot stuff."

                Here is a better picture than a 10 second sound-bite from Fox News.
                __________________________________________________ ________________
                Outside Toledo, Ohio, on Sunday, Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., was approached by plumber Joe Wurzelbacher, a big, bald man with a goatee who asked Obama if he believes in the American dream.

                "I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes 250 to 280 thousand dollars a year," Wurzelbacher said. "Your new tax plan is going to tax me more, isn't it?"

                Obama said, "First off, you would get a 50% tax credit so you'd get a tax cut for your healthcare costs….. if your revenue is above 250 – then from 250 down, your taxes are going to stay the same. It is true that from 250 up – from 250 – 300 or so, so for that additional amount, you’d go from 36 to 39%, which is what it was under Bill Clinton. And the reason why we’re doing that is because 95% of small businesses make less than 250. So what I want to do is give them a tax cut. I want to give all these folks who are bus drivers, teachers, auto workers who make less, I want to give them a tax cut. And so what we’re doing is, we are saying that folks who make more than 250 that that marginal amount above 250 – they’re gonna be taxed at a 39 instead of a 36% rate.”

                Responded Wurzelbacher, "the reason I ask you about the American dream, I mean I've worked hard. I'm a plumber. I work 10-12 hours a day and I'm buying this company and I'm going to continue working that way. I'm getting taxed more and more while fulfilling the American dream."

                "Well," said Obama, "here's a way of thinking about it. How long have been a plumber?"

                Wurzelbacher said 15 years.

                Obama says, “Over the last 15 years, when you weren’t making 250, you would have been given a tax cut from me, so you’d actually have more money, which means you would have saved more, which means you would have gotten to the point where you could build your small business quicker than under the current tax code. So there are two ways of looking at it – I mean one way of looking at it is, now that you’ve become more successful through hard work – you don’t want to be taxed as much.”

                “Exactly," Wurzelbacher said.

                Obama continued, “But another way of looking at it is 95% of folks who are making less than 250, they may be working hard too, but they’re being taxed at a higher rate than they would be under mine. So what I’m doing is, put yourself back 10 years ago when you were only making whatever, 60 or 70. Under my tax plan you would be keeping more of your paycheck, you’d be paying lower taxes, which means you would have saved…Now look, nobody likes high taxes."

                "No," said Wurzelbacher.

                "Of course not," said Obama. "But what’s happened is that we end up – we’ve cut taxes a lot for folks like me who make a lot more than 250. We haven’t given a break to folks who make less, and as a consequence, the average wage and income for ordinary folks, the vast majority of Americans, has actually gone down over the last eight years. So all I want to do is – I’ve got a tax cut. The only thing that changes, is I’m gonna cut taxes a little bit more for the folks who are most in need and for the 5% of the folks who are doing very well - even though they’ve been working hard and I appreciate that – I just want to make sure they’re paying a little bit more in order to pay for those other tax cuts. Now, I respect the disagreement. I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”

                Wurzelbacher said it seemed as though Obama might support a flat tax.

                Obama says, “you know, I would be open to it except here’s the problem with a flat tax is that if you actually put a flat tax together, in order for it to work and replace all the revenue that we’ve got, you’d probably end up having to make it like about a 40% sales tax. I mean that’s the value added, making it up. Now some people say 23 or 25, but in truth when you add up all the revenue that would need to be raised, you’d have to slap on a whole bunch of sales taxes on. And I do believe for folks like me who have worked hard, but frankly also been lucky, I don’t mind paying just a little bit more than the waitress that I just met over there who’s things are slow and she can barely make the rent."

                Obama said, "My attitude is that if the economy’s good for folks from the bottom up, it’s gonna be good for everybody. If you’ve got a plumbing business, you’re gonna be better off if you’re gonna be better off if you’ve got a whole bunch of customers who can afford to hire you, and right now everybody’s so pinched that business is bad for everybody and I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody."

                That's the key moment McCain is jumping out…"when you spread the wealth around it's good for everybody."

                "But listen," Obama said, shaking Wurzelbacher's hand, "I respect what you do and I respect your question, and even if I don’t get your vote, I’m still gonna be working hard on your behalf, because small businesses are what creates jobs in this country and I want to encourage it.”

                "Guys I gotta get out of here and go prepare for the debate," Obama said, "but that was pretty good practice right there."

                __________________________________________________ ______________

                The thought behind "spreading the wealth around" is this: If you pay $3000 (random number I made up) more in taxes because your business is making more than $250,000, then we can allow people who make less money to keep more of their own money. Those people now can afford to frequent your business, and you end up making more money again.

                McCain makes it sound like Obama wants to take money from people making $250,000+ and then hand that money over to everybody else. But that is false thinking. By cutting taxes for people making less than 250K they get to keep more of their OWN money.

                If you call cutting taxes "spreading the wealth around" than what do you call McCain's Tax Cuts for big business? Do people that make 30K need to pay more taxes so that we can give that money to big business?

                There is a difference between cutting your taxes and letting you keep more of your OWN money, and sending you a welfare check.

                If I pay $5000 in taxes throughout the year, and I get $3000 of that back as a refund, than that is not a government handout. That is not spreading the wealth around. That is $3000 the Government should have never gotten in the first place, and that is $3000 of MY money that I will get back.
                "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

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                • #98


                  And here is the whole conversation, uncut, and unedited
                  "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by MarcusKspn View Post
                    Please tell me that you DID notice the fact that there were at least 3 cuts during that 10 second clip to make his message fit into the Fox News agenda?
                    What a surprise. There's more to the soundbite than what is played by the McCain campaign and Faux Jazeera.
                    Truth is weirder than any fiction I've seen.
                    -- Hunter S. Thompson

                    I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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                    • Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                      Faux Jazeera.

                      That is so much better than fix news.

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                      • Originally posted by Geinandputitout View Post
                        That is so much better than fix news.
                        Like what? The Clinton News Network?

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                        • Originally posted by ScareCrow57 View Post
                          Like what? The Clinton News Network?
                          In terms of pure funniness, Faux Jazeera is much funnier than the Clinton News Network.

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                          • Originally posted by SSIaerialmanTIM View Post
                            Bring on the America Haters.



                            It appears to me gentlemen, it is the conservatives are the truly tolerant ones, how else would we put up otherwise people like “SC” wouldn’t dare poke their heads out from under their rock, and people like Obama wouldn’t have the audacity it attempt to aspire to the country’s highest office, while SHUNNING OUR FLAG at the same time.

                            Obama is already done for, let’s all just let him dry up and blow away. TL
                            Nobody's shunning the flag. Stay off the corn whiskey until after the election..

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                            • Originally posted by ThNozzleman View Post
                              Hell, no...it feels good. It's time for all the tax-cheating, un-American rich *******s to start paying their fair share.
                              I gave you a week to respond, so here's the facts.

                              For Tax Year 2006, those people with an Adjusted Gross Income (AGI) greater than $388,806 accounted for the top 1% of income earners in America. In turn, they paid 39.89% of ALL income taxes paid.

                              Those between $153,542 & $388,806 accounted for the next 4%, and they paid 20.25% of ALL income taxes paid.

                              Those between $108,904 & $153,542 accounted for the next 5%, and they paid 10.65% of ALL income taxes paid.

                              Those between $64,702 & $108,904 accounted for the next 15%, and they paid 15.48% of ALL income taxes paid.

                              Do you see a pattern here?

                              The summation of the previous amounts means that those making above $64,702 accounted for the top 25% of income earners in America in 2006, and they paid 86.27% of ALL income taxes paid.

                              How on God's green Earth can you sit there and claim they're not paying their fair share?

                              Also, those making less than $31,987 accounted for the bottom 50%, and they paid ONLY 2.99% of ALL income taxes paid. And that the top 1% paid 13.34 times the dollar amount than the bottom 50%.

                              Each of the top 1% earners paid, on average, 667 times more income taxes than each of the bottom 50%.

                              Source

                              Google federal income taxes paid by income if want more sources.



                              Chew slowly, and wipe your mouth when you're done.
                              Last edited by txgp17; 10-29-2008, 02:21 AM.
                              The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened. --Norman Mattoon Thomas, 6 time presidential candidate for the Socialist Party of America

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                              • Originally posted by localtrainer75 View Post
                                Nobody's shunning the flag. Stay off the corn whiskey until after the election..
                                Poor Tim managed to get himself tossed. His prediction about Obama being done was a little off.
                                Truth is weirder than any fiction I've seen.
                                -- Hunter S. Thompson

                                I'm not saying you're stupid. I'm saying you have bad luck when it comes to thinking.

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