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    Tennessee Trooper Hits, Arrests Firefighter En Route to Call

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    MELISSA DiPANE
    Courtesy of WATE-TV


    SEVIER COUNTY, Tenn.-- The Tennessee Highway Patrol is investigating whether a trooper went too far in forcing a firefighter answering a call to stop.

    Michael Huskey was in the family minivan with his wife and kids when he heard a call from dispatch needing an emergency driver to help a nearby ambulance.

    Huskey turned on his flashers and drove 85 in a 55 mile per hour zone when a state trooper tried to pull him over.

    Huskey radioed dispatch to call off the trooper but he says the trooper swooped in front of him, causing an accident.

    "Once he stopped my client, he found that out and yet he still handcuffed and arrested and investigated it further and took him to jail." says Jim Gass, Huskey's attorney.

    Huskey got a speeding ticket and was charged with failure to yield to lights and sirens.

    According to the report, the officer did not intend to crash into the minivan.

    Huskey will go before a Sevier County judge in a few weeks.

    Republished with permission of WATE-TV.


    To me this was his own stupidity...
    1. For driving 85 in a 55 with his kids in the car
    2. for not stopping for the trooper
    and
    3. for trying to get his dispatch to call off the tropper
    I mean come on.. use some dang common sense
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  • #2
    I would have locked him up, too. In a heartbeat. Only I would have charged him with Child Endangerment. 85 in a 55 with your wife and kids in the car?

    It should also signal the last day this moron was a member of the FD.

    (This will be the point when several people chime in and explain how this idiot is a hero, the cop is a scumbag, how we should let cops who get shot on the highway rot there like deer carcasses, we're better than cops, etc. Note to those people: think very hard about how you would feel if you responded to a MVC in which a private citzen killed his kids because he was driving 85 in a 55.).
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    • #3
      I agree GW... He should be locked up and removed from the dept or at the least put on probation.... I'm a vollie myself and I know at lot of guys that would agree to this... its just uncalled for..
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      • #4
        And giving the guy a warning to drive like a sane person would isn't a viable option?If someone is assigned to drive an emergency vehicle,would it matter if they are in a Pierce Enforcer or a Chrysler Town and Country minivan?

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        • #5
          I see where you are coming from Doug... I still don't agree with the guys action's.... It just don't look like he used his best judgement on this one...
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          • #6
            I would have locked him up, too. In a heartbeat. Only I would have charged him with Child Endangerment. 85 in a 55 with your wife and kids in the car?
            Good call George.

            (This will be the point when several people chime in and explain how this idiot is a hero, the cop is a scum bag, how we should let cops who get shot on the highway rot there like deer carcasses, we're better than cops, etc. Note to those people: think very hard about how you would feel if you responded to a MVC in which a private citizen killed his kids because he was driving 85 in a 55.).
            This FF = idiot/scum bag.

            A pat on the back to the trooper for doing the right thing.

            85 MPH in a 55 MPH zone would be unacceptable had he been in an emergency vehicle with lights and siren running. 85 in a 55 in your POV with your wife and kid in they care with you as asinine.
            I always try my best to approach a disciplinary meeting/hearing with one of my guys with an open mind and try and get all of the facts before forming an opinion. If this was one of my guys and the trooper had in fact clocked him at 85 in a 55 in his POV with his wife and kid in there with him, it would be extremely difficult to keep from forming an opinion before meeting with him.
            If the facts were indeed true, he would be history.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by fireturtle373 View Post
              I see where you are coming from Doug... I still don't agree with the guys action's.... It just don't look like he used his best judgement on this one...

              Maybe.But the article as posted didn't mention how far the THP guy followed him before making the stop.He could have just accelerated to 85 when he passed the trooper's location and the stop wasn't that much farther down the line.
              Nor does it mention road conditions,whether it was a curve or straightaway,etc, so we don't know from this.
              I'm not deciding the hero and goat designations.Just pointing out we weren't there and neither was the reporter.

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              • #8
                And giving the guy a warning to drive like a sane person would isn't a viable option?If someone is assigned to drive an emergency vehicle,would it matter if they are in a Pierce Enforcer or a Chrysler Town and Country minivan?
                No, it would not be a viable option. If his judgment is so poor that he couldn't see the stupidity, recklessness, and carelessness of endangering his wife, his kid, himself, and the rest of the public by the actions he took, he needed something like locking him up for a wake up call.

                If he has such little regard for his own wife and child in his POV, how could you expect an individual like this to drive "with due regard for the safety of others" behind the wheel of an emergency vehicle?

                If one of my guys was clocked at 85 in a 55 running lights and siren in one of the department's vehicles, he never would drive for us again.

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                • #9
                  There were two idiots involved in this incident

                  Originally posted by doughesson View Post
                  Maybe.But the article as posted didn't mention how far the THP guy followed him before making the stop.He could have just accelerated to 85 when he passed the trooper's location and the stop wasn't that much farther down the line.
                  Nor does it mention road conditions,whether it was a curve or straightaway,etc, so we don't know from this.
                  I'm not deciding the hero and goat designations.Just pointing out we weren't there and neither was the reporter.
                  The FF should obviously not be going that fast with his wife and kids in the car (although I will point out that people who are NOT responding to emergency calls routinely travel 85, with their families in the car. I bet I could stand on I-93 with a radar gun and find 1000+ a day)

                  But let's not lose sight of the blinding idiocy of a trooper going to this sort of length to make a traffic stop. I would be shocked if he was following his own agency's protocol in doing so.

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                  • #10
                    In my Dept we're not allowed to use any lights if there is anyone in the car besides ourself.

                    Is it like that for other departments?
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                    • #11
                      I am sure someone from the LEO divisision will correct me if I am out of line here, but I am pretty sure that in pretty much any country/county/municipality etc 30 mph over the posted limit no matter for what reason is a GOOD reason to make a traffic stop. Around where I grew up, those would be grounds for immediate suspension of drivers licence followed by a very hefty fine of DANGEROUS driving. Add to the fact that children were involved.... I would not want to be the fellow sitting in front of the Judge trying to explain that one away.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by randsc View Post
                        The FF should obviously not be going that fast with his wife and kids in the car (although I will point out that people who are NOT responding to emergency calls routinely travel 85, with their families in the car. I bet I could stand on I-93 with a radar gun and find 1000+ a day)

                        But let's not lose sight of the blinding idiocy of a trooper going to this sort of length to make a traffic stop. I would be shocked if he was following his own agency's protocol in doing so.
                        Blind idiocy? Please state the sum total of your police pursuit training. If less than zero were an option, you would have it. Remember, the "swooped in and caused an accident" is from the idiot's statement, not a findingo f the official investigation.

                        It makes no difference if you could find a million a day. This guy was doing it AND HE KNOWS BETTER! The trooper had complete probable cause to make this stop. He had complete probable cause for the charges.

                        Why don't we talk about the balls on this guy thathe called his dispatch center to "call off the trooper"? Who does he think he is. I don't care what type of emergency he is responding to, he still has the absolute responsibility to obey all the traffic laws, including the laws that say you have to stop when an officer tries to pull you over.

                        It is true that police officers have discretion on charging and writing summonses in most instances (most jurisdictions take awaythat discretion is cases involving domestic violence, for example). But the discretion to exercise courtesy rests solely on the officer. Most officers will gladly extend that courtesy to someone with a clean record who demonstrates respect for the law and for the officer. In this case, the idiot mayhave had a clean record, but obviously did not behave in a manner that would be deserving of professional (operative word) courtesy.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by MalahatTwo7 View Post
                          I am sure someone from the LEO divisision will correct me if I am out of line here, but I am pretty sure that in pretty much any country/county/municipality etc 30 mph over the posted limit no matter for what reason is a GOOD reason to make a traffic stop. Around where I grew up, those would be grounds for immediate suspension of drivers licence followed by a very hefty fine of DANGEROUS driving. Add to the fact that children were involved.... I would not want to be the fellow sitting in front of the Judge trying to explain that one away.


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                          • #14
                            I think that this guy didn't use his head. 85 in a 55 is excessive to go drive a ambulance. The police in my area will allow 5 miles over, and hold true to it. He put his wife and kids in danger and had the odasitey (sp?) to call dispatch to 'call the trooper off'??? WTF - I don't care if I'm going to a 3 alarm structure fire, if I have a officer turn his lights on me, I'm going to stop. You are doing the department no good in jail.

                            And I agree he should be put out of that department. That type of disgrace is definately not tolerated where I come from.

                            It's volunteers like him that give volunteers as a whole a really bad reputation.
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                            • #15
                              According to our policy, we are only supposed to drive a maximum of 10mph over the speed limit with lights and siren. Also, if an officer is attempting to pull you over going code, you pull over (POVs and trucks). The officer is looking out for everyone's safety and might see something the driver doesn't.

                              I'm not sure the officer should pull in front of any vehicle going 85mph. The likelyhood of being run into is just a tad too high. I know little of law enforcement operations, but this just doesn't sound too bright.

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