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  • Dalmatian190
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    It's kind of funny to see the microstamping & the old standby of gun buybacks.

    In Connecticut, and I have to think much of the rest of the country, the gang bangers finally figured out it's a bad thing to get caught with a gun with ballistics tying to a crime...

    So now they use "community guns" -- only a handful of firearms have accounted for most of the shootings in the big cities of CT this year...basically anything planned.

    So maybe they carry "defense" guns...but it's a lot less likely they tie to a crime.

    And while it's not a case killer, I'm sure the defense attornies love the reasonable doubt of having a single weapon linked to many crimes, and no positive chain of custody.

    So fine, the gun buybacks make you feel good. And the microstamps let you catch the suburban housewife who didn't know any better. Yipee.

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  • DennisTheMenace
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    Originally posted by DaSharkie
    Remember, muscle memory takes between 2,000 and 10,000 repetitions to firmly implant in your mind.
    That is what the snap in circle is for, 9000 dry fires than 1000 live fires. I shoot expert EVERY time, and have never shot below a 225.

    Besides, the fact that Marcinko shoot the USMC budget is more a reflection on our ability to do more with less, than it is of any real amount of ammo in the Navy's budget. He fired what, half of one percent of the cost of a ship fired Tomahawk? He really should not have bought those Mercedes-Benz limos with discretionary funds than allowed the unit to use them for personal use. I am all for steping on toes if you have to to get the job done, but don't do it just to show your authority, and make sure that the rest of your hose is in order when you.

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  • DennisTheMenace
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    Originally posted by doughesson
    I guess training your people no matter what the cost negates"The more you sweat in training,the less you bleed in combat(on the fireground,etc)".
    Like I said there is a point of dimishing returns. I can honestly say that I have been on long trips to the range where most of the unit hit a period of boredom where bad habits started to creep back in and accuracy started to drop. Additionally you are always dealing with a finite budget, since you are not the only unit that needs to be trained, if you exceed that budget you are hurting the chance for the other guys to sweat enough in training. Luckly modern simualtors are making it a lot less costly to get guys trained a lot more. If Marcinko had that available 25 years ago, maybe he would not have gotten in the trouble he did, but he liked to butt heads even when there was no need, so his path was likely set regardless.

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  • Steamer
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    That's what I like about being a fire investigator as part of my duties. I usually shoot a couple thousand rounds a year that I pay for myself, but I can use it as a tax deduction.

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  • DaSharkie
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    Remember, muscle memory takes between 2,000 and 10,000 repetitions to firmly implant in your mind.

    At a few cents per round, it does add up though.

    I need to hit the range in the next couple of weeks now........Been a while.......

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  • doughesson
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    Originally posted by DennisTheMenace
    Shooting is not THAT much of a perishable skill. All that spent ammo at tax payer expense is part of why Dick Marcinko spent a little time in the stockade. He far exceeded the point of diminishing returns.
    I guess training your people no matter what the cost negates"The more you sweat in training,the less you bleed in combat(on the fireground,etc)".

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  • DennisTheMenace
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    Originally posted by doughesson
    Shooting is a perishable skill which is why SEAL 6 used to fire more ammunition than the entire USMC did their first year of training.Most of us don't need that level of skill but it is nice to have.You might not ever have to shoot at terrs but bring down a buck,Rocky Mountain Sheep,elk or other critter that you spent beau-coup dollars on to get to means that you don't want to miss and waste the money spent to get there.The time spent hunting is NEVER wasted in my opinion.
    Shooting is not THAT much of a perishable skill. All that spent ammo at tax payer expense is part of why Dick Marcinko spent a little time in the stockade. He far exceeded the point of diminishing returns.

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  • MalahatTwo7
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    Well.... the only "moving" target I ever shot at besides drop plates was with a M72, at a plywood target that chose to drop its mooring on one side and flap in the wind. Took that sucker out with "Extreme prejudice!" (actually it was a lucky shot - the wind blew the target back into the sights just as I fired the round.)

    Hunting was never something that I did much of. Went out a few times with a neighbour when I turned 16, but other than lots of track signs we never found a darn thing. But I enjoyed the hiking and all else that went with it though.

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  • doughesson
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    Originally posted by MalahatTwo7
    Doug, I wont disagree with you on any point. I used to shoot very regularly, as a Cadet until I joined the army. After that my range time dropped to virtually zero. And ya I do miss it for the reasons stated, but I can't really justify the expense at the moment. Because like any tool like that, you will always want to try something new.... When I do get to shoot, I still remember how, and do very well for being very rusty.
    Shooting is a perishable skill which is why SEAL 6 used to fire more ammunition than the entire USMC did their first year of training.Most of us don't need that level of skill but it is nice to have.You might not ever have to shoot at terrs but bring down a buck,Rocky Mountain Sheep,elk or other critter that you spent beau-coup dollars on to get to means that you don't want to miss and waste the money spent to get there.The time spent hunting is NEVER wasted in my opinion.

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  • USAFSSGT
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    Originally posted by CALFFBOU
    Ok, here is my collection again. The new SP2022 is on the top. The bottom two are scheduled to be sold.

    I also have to admit, I am a SIG guy, but Glock does make a very good pistol. Too many positives to list. I am on the fence sometimes.

    -Bou

    I am a SIG guy as well. Now all you need is a P-220-ST.

    P-220-ST .45 My Favorite
    SigPro 2340 .40 cal. My Utility Gun
    P-239 .40 cal. My Hide Away

    Coming soon P-226-R Equinox .40 cal.

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  • CALFFBOU
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    Originally posted by KenNFD1219
    Hey Bou:

    Does you new Sig stamp the casing with the S/N?
    Serial Number Bill
    Ken- No, I think I dodged that bullet. (pun intended) No much talk of that new law yet. Sounds interesting. Better get your guns now.

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  • CALFFBOU
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    Ok, here is my collection again. The new SP2022 is on the top. The bottom two are scheduled to be sold.

    I also have to admit, I am a SIG guy, but Glock does make a very good pistol. Too many positives to list. I am on the fence sometimes.

    -Bou

    Last edited by CALFFBOU; 08-30-2006, 02:35 PM.

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  • MalahatTwo7
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    Doug, I wont disagree with you on any point. I used to shoot very regularly, as a Cadet until I joined the army. After that my range time dropped to virtually zero. And ya I do miss it for the reasons stated, but I can't really justify the expense at the moment. Because like any tool like that, you will always want to try something new.... When I do get to shoot, I still remember how, and do very well for being very rusty.

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  • KenNFD1219
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    Hey Bou:

    Does you new Sig stamp the casing with the S/N?
    Serial Number Bill

    I had two favorite handguns-A Dan Wesson .357 with inter-changable barrels (2", 4", 6"). The 6" was very accurate. Took only a minute to switch barrels. My other favorite was a Colt .45 Combat Commander.

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  • LuckyThirteen
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    Originally posted by doughesson
    So,who needs a"reason" to buy a gun?Shooting is fun and relaxing.It takes some coordination to hit a small target placed a distance away and the act actually benefits your mind just as doing fine work like crocheting or sewing.
    Whenever you do close work,the mind's synapses form other connections and pathways to help calculate what to order the hands and fingers to do next.
    Well put. And with that, I'm definitely hitting the range this Saturday. Its been a while since I've fired the 5.7 and now that I have my holster, I need to pratice drawing and firing from it. I also need to get off my lazy a** and put the paperwork in for my CCW.

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