Telemarketers extinct? Oh the joy!!!!

[Tooanfrom]

Spammers and Porn

Mcaldwell--maybe you have just hit on a solution! If I were to take a bunch of "Porno" photo's to a school and show them to the youngsters there, surely I am guilty of corrupting minors? Presenting unasked for Porn on the internet is the same thing. Looking forward to more info. So far I seem to be inundated in Spam that extolls the virtues of growing a certain part of my anatomy-if I were to consume all of these pills and assuming they worked as well as the Spammers say, a wheelbarrow would have to be the next purchase to carry it around. My final worry is do the Spammers also sell a pill equally as good to female customers to accomodate the wheelbarrows contents?
Signed-"Concerned"

[RspctFrmCalgary]

I love those ones .... "Sheri, INCREASE YOUR PENIS SIZE NOW!!!!"

and ummmmmmmmm tooandfrom?? You seem to have an awful lot of information about the content of emails offering such a service .... hehehe you read all about it instead of just deleting!!! Did you order some pills too? HAHAHA tee hee

[FireCapt1951retired]

As millions of years have proven. When one species becomes extinct. You can bet another will be created.

[superchef]

As millions of years have proven. When one species becomes extinct. You can bet another will be created

So true!

Tooanfrom-
Dear Concerned,


On a side note, it is interesting to see how hard the politicians are trying to get this passed. The courts rule against the law, the politicans come back with an amended version.It is an interesting study in the political process to see how the courts and Congress are playing this out. This probably has to be the fastest moving piece of legislation currently running it's way through the political process.

If enough people speak, those in power listen. What could 50 million voices do for the Fire Service?

Demand more Fire Grant money? Demand that we place a higher priority on training standards? Demand that there will never be another Bradley Golden, another Anndee Huber? Demand that our Fire Services are given the tools they need to meet the ever increasing demands that are being made on them?

Ok. enough rant for one day. I am off to work on my homework.

[MalahatTwo7]

Originally posted by superchef


What could 50 million voices do for the Fire Service?

Demand more Fire Grant money? Demand that we place a higher priority on training standards? Demand that there will never be another Bradley Golden, another Anndee Huber? Demand that our Fire Services are given the tools they need to meet the ever increasing demands that are being made on them?

If only those 50 million people would take the time to talk to the Guys in the Station, then maybe those voices would be "heard". Unfortunatley those same 50 million voices only cry out when, as an individual, they fall to a calamity. And then it's up to the emergency services to help them out. Of course when something terrible happens, and someone gets hurt or killed because of outdated equipment, improper useage, or something important breaks down, then it's the fault of the individuals or the Station that responded. Most times all that gets "us" is bad press.

Just a thought here, but I wonder what would happen if the White House was lost due to fire, because the responding units were not able to conduct operations due to poor/outdated or failed equipment.

In an odd way it is comforting to know that when that many voices speak out at once, "Stuff Happens" quickly.

**That is a retorical question, because I am not trying to "stir the pot" to argue or pick a fight with the Stations that service the DC area. They do a great job. This was purely a hypothetical concept to make food for thought.**

[E40FDNYL35]

September 27, 2003 -- Not even the rich, famous and politically powerful are immune to telemarketers, Mayor Bloomberg(Jerk) revealed yesterday, advising New Yorkers not to be rude to them.
"It is annoying when you're at home and you get in the middle of dinner, somebody calling up and trying to sell something to you," the mayor(Jerk) said when asked on his weekly WABC radio show if he's ever been bothered by telemarketers. Bloomberg's(The Jerks) strategy for handling the unwanted intrusions? "I say, 'I'm just not interested. Thank you very much. Good day.' " He suggested a polite hang-up was in order. "You don't have to be rude, but you don't have to waste your time talking to them." Bloomberg(Jerk) likened the annoyance to e-mail spam.
"You go through your e-mail and there's an awful lot of spam and you can't find the messages that you care about," Bloomberg(Jerk) said.
"Clearly the public does not want - and I don't either - calls during dinner or lots of spam on my e-mail." Aides said the mayor(Jerk) supports the national "do not call" list, which has been stalled by court rulings this week. But yesterday, the largest telemarketing industry group said it wants its members to abide by the "do not call" list in spite of the court decisions. "We are telling our members, yes indeed, we don't want you calling people who have told anyone they don't want any calls," Direct Marketing Association president H. Robert Wientzen said. He said he hasn't had time to arrange agreements making that request binding, but "up to the moment I have had nobody disagree."Nearly 51 million people have signed up on the do not call list. The FTC is still allowing people to sign up for the list at the Web site www.donotcall.gov or by calling (888) 382-1222. However, the latest court ruling means the agency can't penalize telemarketers for violating the registry, said Walter Janowski, a director with research firm Gartner Inc. "This likely precludes a quick fix such as Congress's attempt yesterday," he said. "We can expect multiple appeals potentially as high as the Supreme Court." The House voted 412-8 and the Senate 95-0 for the bill to enact the do-not-call list. President Bush said he looked forward to signing it Monday. "Unwanted telemarketing calls are intrusive, annoying and all too common," he said in a statement. Even after Bush signs the legislation, the FTC must win in court for the list to move forward. The national registry is intended to block an estimated 80 percent of telemarketing calls. The FTC's rules require telemarketers to check the list every three months to see who does not want to be called. Those who call listed people could be fined up to $11,000 for each violation. Consumers would file complaints to an automated phone or online system.

[jedson81]

don't do that!

Originally posted by firenresq77
Get one of those hand held air horns with the disposable canisters. When you get a call from one of them, tell them to hang on, then get your horn and give them a nice little blast........


I have also heard that you can download the sound that gets played when you dial a number that is disconnected or has been changed.
After you download it, make it the first thing on your answering machine, then follow with your message. Supposedly all of these computers are programmed to delete the phone number from their list when they get these tones. I haven't tried it yet, but think I will. I have been getting way too many of these calls lately........

don't ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever do the airhorms please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've had that done to me before!! I couldn't hear for days! I cut the call and lost the name, otherwise we would have sued for assult! Telemarketers have sued and won many times because many have lost their hearing permanently because of that! I know it was probably a joke, but that, whistles, and screaming happens a lot.

The BEST thing you can do is say "remove me from every list your company has, please." And say it polite but firm. At that point they cannot refuse or try to continue the sale, but they have to read off a quick legal thing and leave their phone number. If they try otherwise, stay polite and firm, but say that they're violating the law and they need to add you to the company do not call list right away. If they persist, you're dealing with the very small (but very vocal and memorable) group that's never going to follow the law, and all you can do is get the company name and a contact number, hang up, and report them. Nothing will get an illegitamate telemarketer off the phone faster than asking for their personal/company name and company phone number.

while on my soapbox, just remember that any joke or weird or funny like you can think of, we've heard. yes, even that one. If we've (past tense in my case) been working for more than 15 minutes that day, we've probably heard it a couple times today. yes, even that one. and yes, we will pick on you after you hang up. we even have contests about how many times we can hear a certain joke. Yes, even that one.

[Jay911]

Today on the 911 board I had no less than seven calls from a local call center that was going through area code 944, or something to that effect. Odd, aren't the phone numbers automatically dialed?

One nut even decided that since he couldn't make it to his original caller, he'd try to spiel to me. Me: "Sir, are you serious? You're aware this is the 911 operator you're talking to?"



--j.

[NJFFSA16]

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The national do-not-call list, hampered by a weeklong legal struggle, went into effect Wednesday, with government officials still predicting a large decline in telemarketing calls to millions of registered phone numbers.

The Story

Don't call me, I'll call you.

[superchef]

Don't call me, I'll call you

Anytime my friend (and you'll even get dinner) Thanks for the update.

[MalahatTwo7]

From NJ's link
Some telemarketers say the legal confusion has their industry in turmoil, with many unsure about which numbers can and can't be called and what actions will result in penalties.

If you aren't sure, then DON'T DO IT - How simple is that?

[NJFFSA16]

Ya know....I'm going to start another thread, with a POLL. A simple one. I'd like to get an idea how many of our members have ever bought something after receiving a telemarketing phone call.

Should be interesting........ Because I just can not believe people actually purchase stuff from these callers!

[superchef]

Because I just can not believe people actually purchase stuff from these callers

Credit Cards for one. One published report on a bank states that they originate 250,000 accounts per year through telemarketing (although they of course, declined to comment on this). Some trivia, if each account has a $2000 balance, then telemarketing brings in roughly $500 million a year in new receivables for a bank. The banks are lining up their lobbyists I am sure.