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  • #16
    Originally posted by tanker5117
    you mean there is an atheists sysmbol? what is it, nothing?


    Tanker
    It's the atomic symbol with the letter A as the nucleus of the atom.
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    • #17
      Godless heathens. What is the symbol for an Athiest???

      I feel the need to go to confession now I am having bad thoughts and uttering many many bad words about this.
      I.A.C.O.J IRISH TATTOOED-HOOLIGAN

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      • #18
        Judgement day


        Catholic OH jesus
        Jewish OH lord
        Islamic OH alah
        Athiest OH SH*T

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        • #19
          from their website ( i have to go wash my hands now)

          "An international symbol for Atheism has long been needed. When American Atheists was formed in 1963, a contemporary scientific symbol was chosen; this acknowledges that only through the use of scientific analysis and free, open inquiry can humankind reach out for a better life."


          So, thousands of years of faith in all religions mean nothing? Give me a break.

          Tanker
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          • #20
            some people just don't get it......
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            • #21
              If these people really want to help humankind reach a better life they would mind their own business. If they want to put their symbol up that is their right, but don't complain about the symbols of others just because they don't fit in with your belief (or is it non-belief?) system.
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              • #22
                Excellent comments, all, especially Rev!

                La Crosse, WI, has been doing battle over a 10 Commandments monument in a City park, and a recent writer to the newspaper wondered what the plaintiffs would have to say about all the crosses in the public cemeteries. Imagine anyone trying to force removal of the crosses - and Stars of David - in Arlington??
                Joe O'Keefe

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                • #23
                  As someone has already stated, "You cannot say anything without offending somebody." This, unfortunately, is so true. I think that something (I don't know what) in our culture has bred a generation that whines about every little thing. Its getting to be totaly obserd!

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                  • #24
                    In the words of one of New Yorks Bravest, just days after 9/11...

                    "You can kiss my royal Irish ***"

                    I think that is a fitting reply to a statement such as this.

                    Remembering the 343 from this side of the pond, always.
                    United Kingdom branch, IACOJ.

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                    • #25
                      I wonder what kind of money those atheist use to pay their bills.
                      Doesn't it say on a dollar bill :" IN GOD WE TRUST"?
                      *The BOSS rules*

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                      • #26
                        What is a cross?

                        A cross is a symbol.

                        What does the symbol stand for?

                        Isn't that defined by the beholder? If you raise your middle finger to someone, isn't the true meaning of that symbol defined by the person viewing the finger? If you don't think it means anything, you won't care.

                        Similarly, if an atheist believes that there is no God, then why do they care if there is a symbol of God displayed? Aren't they admitting that there is a God, by the simple offense taken by the symbol?

                        ... sorry, just some random thoughts.

                        Back to the practical thoughts ...

                        Unless this chick is going to pay for the memorial, I don't give a rat's *** what she thinks should, or should not be included.

                        Stay Safe

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by PFire23 View Post
                          Here's a solution for her............ if ya don't like it avert your damn eyes and DON'T look.
                          That's right. If you don't like religious symbolism, just don't look.
                          Same with walking down the street and seeing mega churches on the street corners, just don't look.
                          Or when watching TV....just don't look...
                          Or when going about your everyday life-wait...I'm seeing a trend here.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by zippo99 View Post
                            I wonder what kind of money those atheist use to pay their bills.
                            Doesn't it say on a dollar bill :" IN GOD WE TRUST"?
                            So if they don't trust in god because they don't believe in god...then how are they supposed to live in this country? They can't pay bills because of that crappy motto that's stamped on our currency! Maybe we should just get rid of the motto, you know to separate church from state. Then everyone will be happy. Oh wait, no we won't. The crazy ****ed of cult members of the Westboro Baptist Church will make an appearance and start spewing hate from their bigot faces. Unless......maybe once they show up...Atheists and Christians will finally come together and agree on something...and that something is hating the WBC! Byaaah!!

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by tanker5117 View Post
                              "An international symbol for Atheism has long been needed. When American Atheists was formed in 1963, a contemporary scientific symbol was chosen; this acknowledges that only through the use of scientific analysis and free, open inquiry can humankind reach out for a better life."
                              I love the strawman argument that somehow Science == Atheism != Religion. In fact, as an engineer I abhor that this Atheist Group subverts a scientific symbol and claim to be for "use of scientific analysis and free, open inquiry can humankind reach out for a better life." when in fact they're for the opposite. Bunch of hypocritical, self-righteous, ****** bags.
                              So you call this your free country
                              Tell me why it costs so much to live
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by tanker5117 View Post
                                Ellen Johnson, president of American Atheists based in New Jersey, told The Trentonian newspaper that the cross is -- in her words -- ``a Christian religious advertisement.'' Johnson said allowing the cross to remain, is -- in her words -- ``an insult to everyone who doesn't believe in that particular religion.''
                                Oh Ellen.. it's far worse then you imagine. The item in question is not man made and was formed naturally in the wreckage. The fact that the item formed in the shape of a cross is proof that there is a god and that she wants everyone to bow down to her iron clad rule.
                                So you call this your free country
                                Tell me why it costs so much to live
                                -3dd

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