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  • Bones42
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    From what I was told....traditionally, a new apparatus was celebrated by surrounding communities. Part of the ceremony involved spraying water on the vehicle for good luck (guess it had something to do with washing away bad spirits?).

    Some "wetdowns" are simply a big party, some are more of a judging contest for parade pieces, some are more like a carnival, and most are a mix of all of the above. In my area, FD's have them and also EMS Squads have them. Never been to one to celebrate a new police car...

    They are more common in volunteer agencies, but I have been to a few at paid departments.

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  • Tooanfrom
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    "Wetdown"--explain,please.

    Having never heard of a "Wetdown" could somebody please tell me what it entails? Is it a Volly activity only or do your career guys do it too? It would appear to be a "American" thing--your enlightenment will be apreciated.

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  • Weruj1
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    George,
    I was just a wonderin..............thanks

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  • Bones42
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    My guess:

    company A's guy throws smoke bomb in company B's truck.
    company B puts out smoke bomb.
    company B decides to get some paybacks/revenge on company A by using 200gals foam in company A's cab.

    Also betting some pushing/shoving/fighting involved. Oh yeah, maybe a little alcohol and members under age of 30. Might also have some "my truck is prettier than your truck" going on too.

    just a guess.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    1. Smoke grenade landed in the jacket and started a fire that was extinguished early. The only damage to the vehicle was a slight burn on the seat and a smoke stained window.

    2. These were two different pieces of apparatus.

    3. The whole story has not come out yet. It is contained solely in police reports and fire chief's letters.

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  • EFD840
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    Now I'm really confused...

    Smoke grenade thrown into the cab of the engine
    George, since you called it a smoke grenade, I'm assuming we aren't talking about a simple little crabapple sized fireworks bomb. Did it damage the truck? It got hot enough to burn a turnout coat, to me that sounds like more than enough heat to melt wiring and ignite vehicle seats. Even if it didn't cause any obvious damage, the heat, smoke, water, and foam exposure means you can certainly say bye-bye warranty if the truck involved was the new one.

    Did the guys with the 200 gallons of foam know about the smoke grenade? They may have simply been trying to suppress what they thought was (and may have been) a real fire.

    This doesn't sound like simple horseplay that got out of control. My department is far, far, far from being a model of discipline and good behavior but I guarantee you that if anyone threw a smoke grenade in one of our vehicles there would be no discussion about their future with the department. It is amazing that the members didn't see any need to discipline those involved. How do you justify any request for support or funding when you allow your members to wantonly damage and destroy equipment without facing the consequences.

    I say "bravo" to the commissioners that had the courage to do the right thing.

    George, you're killin' me with these little tidbits of information . I tried to "do my homework" but I came up with two answers. My first choice made me think I could read the full story in the court transcripts, but then I visited Mapquest and came up with another possibility.

    I can't get over the thought that someone would trash their equipment in the name 'fun' and get away with it. Then again, maybe I'm just nosy but I sure would like to know what happened that isn't in the news story and what these folks were thinking. If you can post it, would you fill in the blanks?

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    Originally posted by Weruj1
    George,
    How do you know all this ? or are you just BS ing us ?
    Do your homework, dude.

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  • Weruj1
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    George,
    How do you know all this ? or are you just BS ing us ?

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    my only question is, if this all started from a water fight, how did a fire jacket get burned?
    Smoke grenade thrown into the cab of the engine.

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  • drparasite
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    I've only been to wetdowns that have had alcohol served, but never have any of them gotten out of hand like here. i've participated in water fights, and with the exception of the occasional innocent bystander getting soaked, there was no problems or incidents.
    Can your radios withstand about 200 gallons of Class A foam sprayed into the cab?
    if someone intentionally sprayed 200 gallons of foam into the cab, then they should be thrown out of the dept. I don't care how much they have had to drink, that's just stupid. but don't let their stupidity cast a shadow on the 99% of other wetdowns where everyone just has a good time.

    my only question is, if this all started from a water fight, how did a fire jacket get burned?

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  • NeilMcD
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    Hmmm...

    Not all NJ wetdowns are criminal matters. I stopped by the Roseland VFD wetdown for their new Pierce 1750gpm Engine (Engine 661) and it was quite enjoyable. No need for the boys in blue other than traffic control.

    I couldn't stay long though as wife and I had dinner plans to get away from the kids while grandma/grandpa watched them.

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  • NJFFSA16
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    There are wet wetdowns and dry wetdowns....and then there's Budd Lake wetdowns. OyVey...

    dfdNo9...Denville or Dover?

    NJ

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  • dfdNo9
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    To bad

    There are always a few in the crowd that ruin it for the
    rest. I have been to many wet down over the last 15 years
    and some have been dry (no booze)and had a lot of fun. I still
    go to them. For me it a good way to see some old friend and
    check out some equipment that I may not get to see other wise.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    2 face hearing in wetdown horseplay

    By Zenaida Mendez, Daily Record

    MENDHAM - Two members of the borough fire department who were cited with disorderly persons complaints for their behavior at a "wetdown" event might face disciplinary action from borough officials.

    In June, the department held a celebration for the arrival of its new rescue truck and another piece of equipment, but the party allegedly got out of control.

    "Water is sprayed, people run the equipment, and they have a good time with it," Mayor Richard Kraft explained. "This situation, unfortunately, got out of hand. There was rowdiness and more intense activity than is to be expected."

    Several fire department radios were damaged, and a fire jacket was burned.

    Borough police subsequently investigated the celebration and cited two firefighters for disorderly persons offenses.

    Kraft declined to name the two firefighters, and township fire Chief Joe Eible could not be reached for comment.

    Councilman Gerard Dolan, Jr., also declined to speak on the matter.

    "We've been advised by counsel to say no comment," he said Thursday afternoon.

    Two former fire chiefs who still are active in the department declined to comment.

    Members of the fire department, which has approximately 60 active volunteers, decided not to expel or discipline the two firefighters. Members of the department's board of directors wanted the incident reviewed, so they turned to the borough's governing body for help.

    This week, the council decided to hold a hearing, to be chaired by an independent reviewer of the case, that will be held by the end of this month. No date for the hearing has yet been set.

    During that private, one-day hearing, the fire department members will be allowed to present their case, including evidence and witnesses to the incident, Kraft explained.

    The hearing will conclude with a determination as to whether the firefighters should be disciplined, expelled from the department or not be subject to any action taken.

    "We're doing it this way to protect the civil rights of the individuals and to be sure they're treated fairly," Kraft said, "that's there's no bias or failure to allow them the opportunity to present their own case."

    Kraft said that a hearing chairperson, who must have a legal background, has not yet been hired. He said the candidates being considered by the council include a retired state Superior Court judge.

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  • roadkill
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    Whoa boy, better be some real good explanation for that one.
    they were trying to have one of those european style foam dance parties, like on Ibiza.

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