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  • hwoods
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    Well...........

    Originally posted by voyager9 View Post
    Ok, riddle me this. How does a plate saying "BICYCLE" help an elderly person
    It's Called "Truth in Labeling"...............

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  • BULL321
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    If they pass a dumb law like this, I don't the Police will take time to enforce it unless the rider was a arse hole. Trust me we have better ways to spend our time while at work than enforce stupid crap like this.

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  • voyager9
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    Originally posted by SPFDRum View Post
    A plate isn't going to make the elitist biking crowd suddenly believe that they now must follow the rules of the road, that I agree. But a fee, tax, or what ever you call it, I'm ok with it.
    How else do you pay for the paved trails, the painted bike lanes, the bike specific signage? Oh I know, take the money from some other worthy program or short change the street department budget. Who needs to fill pot holes or replace semaphore lights anyway?
    voyager9, on these rides, are the bikers maintaining single file? Here its required.
    Here single file pace-lines are the norm. The problem on the bigger rides is you might get pace-lines passing each other, or passing slower individual riders. From what I've seen the problem isn't with the riders that are good enough for pace-lines. They know better. It's the crew that only use their bike twice a year that ride three-abreast so they can all talk that cause the problem. The MS150 and ACS ride here can get 3000-5000 riders of all ages/abilities.

    As for fees..etc. I know there are bike groups (volunteer or not) that contribute to maintaining the trails they use.. Some have the members pay a fee which gets kicked back to the park or whatever to help with maintenance. Others have the members contribute time and perform the maintenance directly. I don't know the specifics but this seems like it would work better than fees (at least fees tacked on to owning a bike.. certainly a per-use fee would also work)

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  • voyager9
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    Originally posted by voyager9 View Post
    Ok, riddle me this. How does a plate saying "BICYCLE" help an elderly person identify the person? "Was that a bicycle, or a garbage truck?" If they don't realize it's a bicycle then they probably shouldn't be allowed outside unsupervised.

    Second.. to fit on a bike this plate would be small, the letters would be small.. and anyone over age 55 probably can't read them ANYWAY?

    This bill does NOTHING to "Help Seniors" and simply a money grab.


    Here ya go Cap..I know y our eyesight isn't what it used to be.

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  • CaptOldTimer
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    Originally posted by voyager9 View Post
    Ok, riddle me this. How does a plate saying "BICYCLE" help an elderly person identify the person? "Was that a bicycle, or a garbage truck?" If they don't realize it's a bicycle then they probably shouldn't be allowed outside unsupervised.

    Second.. to fit on a bike this plate would be small, the letters would be small.. and anyone over age 55 probably can't read them ANYWAY?

    This bill does NOTHING to "Help Seniors" and simply a money grab.
    What the old age jokes!! LOL

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  • SPFDRum
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    A plate isn't going to make the elitist biking crowd suddenly believe that they now must follow the rules of the road, that I agree. But a fee, tax, or what ever you call it, I'm ok with it.
    How else do you pay for the paved trails, the painted bike lanes, the bike specific signage? Oh I know, take the money from some other worthy program or short change the street department budget. Who needs to fill pot holes or replace semaphore lights anyway?
    voyager9, on these rides, are the bikers maintaining single file? Here its required.

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  • voyager9
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    Originally posted by hwoods View Post
    Go for it!!...... No, I'm not being sarcastic. I honestly feel that there should be some form of licensing for Bicycles. No, I don't think the kid with Training wheels is a problem, but people who are old enough to know better are constantly pushing their luck with their arrogant attitudes here in my area. On any Saturday or Sunday, People from all over the Metro area, including people from out of State, congregate in a large Commuter Parking lot near my home to unload their Bikes and ride the Country roads in this Community. These fools wander all over the road and simply could care less about motor vehicle traffic. The only other time I've seen this attitude is with Sailboaters. On numerous occasions, these idiots have interfered with Emergency operations by refusing to obey a lawful order of a Fire or EMS person to Stop and not proceed thru an Emergency scene such as an Auto Accident. Anything to get these morons off of our Roads around here will have my full support.......
    Having been on some fairly large organized rides here in NJ I've seen both sides of the culture. Certainly the behavior you mention does occur, unfortunately... but it's not everyone.

    Also note that if the Cops aren't doing anything about it now, they won't later when they have plates.. Bikes have to follow the traffic laws, plate or no plate.

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  • voyager9
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    Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
    The $3,000 mountain bike, the little girl’s bicycle with pom pom streamers and training wheels, the boardwalk cruiser with the cute pink basket — all of them would have to bear the plate, marked "BICYCLE" in clear lettering.
    Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
    "They had been knocked down, knocked over and they had no way to register a complaint. They couldn’t identify the person," said Tucker.

    It there were clearly visible license plates on the bicycles, Tucker said the seniors would have "some kind of recourse in reporting the incidents."
    Ok, riddle me this. How does a plate saying "BICYCLE" help an elderly person identify the person? "Was that a bicycle, or a garbage truck?" If they don't realize it's a bicycle then they probably shouldn't be allowed outside unsupervised.

    Second.. to fit on a bike this plate would be small, the letters would be small.. and anyone over age 55 probably can't read them ANYWAY?

    This bill does NOTHING to "Help Seniors" and simply a money grab.

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  • ChiefKN
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    Can't wait for them to start busting those nasty five year olds.

    Its just a tax, pure and simple.

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  • SPFDRum
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    I'm mixed about this. For one, I would like to see all those urban mountain bikers start to pay a share of the cost of trails.
    Here in Minnesota, many railroad beds where abandoned and the local snowmobile clubs soon used their own money and labor to remake them into snowmobile trails. Well it didn't take long for the biking elitist to waste tax dollars and have them tarred. Now why you need a tarred bike trail for your $3000 mountain bike is beyond me, but that's what happened. Not long after, there was a push to ban motorized vehicles on those very same trails. So yes, to sum it up, they should pay something.

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  • CaptOldTimer
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    When I was growing up in Memphis back in the ......... well let's say quite a few years ago, the city had a onetime bicycle license.

    I think it was .50 cents for the tag and you took the bike to a local police precinct and they installed the plate about 4'" X 2" under the seat where the rear folks came up to the main post.


    They probably got away from that now or if it's still in operation it is a decal.

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  • tny1771
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    Originally posted by hwoods View Post
    Go for it!!...... No, I'm not being sarcastic. I honestly feel that there should be some form of licensing for Bicycles. No, I don't think the kid with Training wheels is a problem, but people who are old enough to know better are constantly pushing their luck with their arrogant attitudes here in my area. On any Saturday or Sunday, People from all over the Metro area, including people from out of State, congregate in a large Commuter Parking lot near my home to unload their Bikes and ride the Country roads in this Community. These fools wander all over the road and simply could care less about motor vehicle traffic. The only other time I've seen this attitude is with Sailboaters. On numerous occasions, these idiots have interfered with Emergency operations by refusing to obey a lawful order of a Fire or EMS person to Stop and not proceed thru an Emergency scene such as an Auto Accident. Anything to get these morons off of our Roads around here will have my full support.......
    on second thought, I agree with Harve! lol

    that bicycle culture can sure be one interesting breed of....

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  • tny1771
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    Originally posted by notfruitybutloopy
    This is possible one of the smartest scams to falsly satisfy the public I've seen in a while... but then again it must be a Jersey thing.
    I mean I really feel sorry for the small group of people that that happens to, I really do, but registering bikes out to be able to identify them is possibly the worst idea I've ever heard of.
    It's just another revenue generating angle. satisfying the public or IDing bikes isn't the purpose.

    NY tried a similar plate scheme last year in trying to get us all to purchase their "new yellow plate" when it would come time to renew your auto reg. it didn't last long.

    the tough economy can make the states with higher spending go searching for some pretty interesting ways to squeeze you.

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  • hwoods
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    Great!!.............

    Go for it!!...... No, I'm not being sarcastic. I honestly feel that there should be some form of licensing for Bicycles. No, I don't think the kid with Training wheels is a problem, but people who are old enough to know better are constantly pushing their luck with their arrogant attitudes here in my area. On any Saturday or Sunday, People from all over the Metro area, including people from out of State, congregate in a large Commuter Parking lot near my home to unload their Bikes and ride the Country roads in this Community. These fools wander all over the road and simply could care less about motor vehicle traffic. The only other time I've seen this attitude is with Sailboaters. On numerous occasions, these idiots have interfered with Emergency operations by refusing to obey a lawful order of a Fire or EMS person to Stop and not proceed thru an Emergency scene such as an Auto Accident. Anything to get these morons off of our Roads around here will have my full support.......

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  • DeputyMarshal
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    Just when you think politicians have run out of batsh|t stupid ideas for new legislation...

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