Leader

Collapse

Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Emergency! helmets

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • ffp20
    replied
    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    We had both the Msa and the Bullard "Hard boil" helmets here when I started. You couldn't KILL the Bullards but you Could stave up the guy under them. When we got rid of them back in the 80's we tried to kill one with a sledge. Nope,works just like the Turtle shell in Mario bros, you'll get hurt but the helmet won't! hehe T.C.
    The liners in the bullard hard boil helmets were killers. The metal brackets that held them in would dig into your scalp and hurt like hell after a while.

    Leave a comment:


  • LaFireEducator
    replied
    My first helmet was that style.

    Brings back memories.

    Leave a comment:


  • Rescue101
    replied
    We had both the Msa and the Bullard "Hard boil" helmets here when I started. You couldn't KILL the Bullards but you Could stave up the guy under them. When we got rid of them back in the 80's we tried to kill one with a sledge. Nope,works just like the Turtle shell in Mario bros, you'll get hurt but the helmet won't! hehe T.C.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jonnee
    replied
    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    I sent an inquiry directly to MSA. This was my question:


    This was their response:
    Very good. About what has been said by the posters.

    Leave a comment:


  • PaladinKnight
    replied
    Nothing like going to the horse to get in the saddle. Well done sir.

    Leave a comment:


  • JJR512
    replied
    I sent an inquiry directly to MSA. This was my question:
    I have a question about the history of an MSA product. It is my understanding through online research that back in the 1960s-70s, MSA produced a fire helmet under the Topguard or Topgard name. I understand that currently, MSA produces a safety (non-FF) helmet under the Topgard name. Is the name of the older fire helmet correctly spelled Topguard or Topgard? If it is Topgard, why was the design changed from a fire helmet to a safety helmet? On the other hand, if the old fire helmet is correctly spelled Topguard, was there also a Topgard safety helmet in production at the same time? When was the Topgard safety helmet first introduced?
    This was their response:
    At some point in the mid-1980s, NFPA-1971 changed significantly enough that we could no longer offer the Topgard as a structural firefighting helmet. We've continued to market its cap & hat versions, though, as our industrial Topgard helmet. Regardless of the model, each version was part of the Topgard "family." This model was launched in the 1960s.

    Leave a comment:


  • JJR512
    replied
    Originally posted by Jonnee View Post
    What you are wearing is an industrial type helmet. Its not a fire helmet as JJR512 seems to think.

    The MSA Topgard is the proper name of that helmet.

    It comes in various colors. This is what the helmet looks like.
    Thought, as in the past-tense version of think. You cleared up my confusion about that a few posts back, and I thought I had expressed that I now understood it.

    I was asking about CanadianFyrTrks's firefighting helmet because he wrote "Topguard" not "Topgard", which further illustrates that I am no longer confused about the two different models and their names, and also reinforces my earlier opinion that these two different helmets being given almost the same name is "stupidly confusing". I mean here's a guy that owns one kind of helmet but he's calling it by the other kind's name, that's how easy it is to get them mixed up. But that's just my opinion.

    Leave a comment:


  • Jonnee
    replied
    Originally posted by CanadianFyrTrks View Post
    Nope, I use one in the petroleum industry. It's the new Topguard
    What you are wearing is an industrial type helmet. Its not a fire helmet as JJR512 seems to think.

    The MSA Topgard is the proper name of that helmet.

    It comes in various colors. This is what the helmet looks like.
    Attached Files

    Leave a comment:


  • CanadianFyrTrks
    replied
    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post


    Are you saying that the Topguard firefighting helmet is still a current model that MSA produces now? Do you know where someone can get them? Because I looked (not real hard, to be honest, after I came to believe that it was not a current product) and couldn't find them. I might like to get one if they're still making new ones.
    Nope, I use one in the petroleum industry. It's the new Topguard

    Leave a comment:


  • Jonnee
    replied
    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    Ah, so there's the Topgard and Topguard. Wow, that's stupidly confusing on MSA's part. No wonder I got mixed up. Sorry about that!


    Are you saying that the Topguard firefighting helmet is still a current model that MSA produces now? Do you know where someone can get them? Because I looked (not real hard, to be honest, after I came to believe that it was not a current product) and couldn't find them. I might like to get one if they're still making new ones.

    Nothing stupid. Two different types of safety helmets, one spelled one way and the other another. The Topguard fire helmet is not in production. That is probably why MSA dropped the "U" and call the safety helmet what they are calling it now.

    As far as the MSA Topguard fire helmets, they may have been a large supply sitting in a warehouse somewhere that cities, towns, burgs and other places are buying for their members as they are probably cheap in cost and they serve well. Might be here CanadianFyrTrks is, there isn't any regulation or their town don't really care if there is one.

    You can probably buy a used one on ebay if you want one.

    Leave a comment:


  • JJR512
    replied
    Originally posted by Jonnee View Post
    The helmet I posted is a MSA Topguard model. It has a 4 inch leather front attached by 4 screws.

    It also has an elastic chin strap.

    The ones on the TV show were of the same type but the numbers were not cut in but I think they were applied. Maybe have been a stencil but not stick ons.

    The helmet you show in your link is a topgard, not a Topguard. A big difference. Don't get them confused.
    Ah, so there's the Topgard and Topguard. Wow, that's stupidly confusing on MSA's part. No wonder I got mixed up. Sorry about that!

    Originally posted by CanadianFyrTrks View Post
    The Topguard really hasn't changed much in the past 30 years then, I wear one now (very very popular in the Patch up here!)
    Are you saying that the Topguard firefighting helmet is still a current model that MSA produces now? Do you know where someone can get them? Because I looked (not real hard, to be honest, after I came to believe that it was not a current product) and couldn't find them. I might like to get one if they're still making new ones.

    Leave a comment:


  • CanadianFyrTrks
    replied
    The Topguard really hasn't changed much in the past 30 years then, I wear one now (very very popular in the Patch up here!)

    Leave a comment:


  • Jonnee
    replied
    Originally posted by JJR512 View Post
    Thanks! Same to both of you as well!


    Jonnee, yeah that's the one I remember...Well not directly, just from the show. I can't quite tell from that angle, but does it have a leather front mounted to the front? Do you recall or know if that's how they all were, or if that's how it was in the show? I have a vague recollection that in the show, they had simple sticker fronts, but I could very well be wrong...I watch that show almost every day, too, on RTV, but I can't quite picture it clearly in my mind.

    There's a picture of the current Topgard at MSA's website (http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/product795.html). I still don't know why they changed it, it seems like it might have made more sense to just give a new name to the completely different newer design.


    The helmet I posted is a MSA Topguard model. It has a 4 inch leather front attached by 4 screws.

    It also has an elastic chin strap.

    The ones on the TV show were of the same type but the numbers were not cut in but I think they were applied. Maybe have been a stencil but not stick ons.

    The helmet you show in your link is a topgard, not a Topguard. A big difference. Don't get them confused.

    Leave a comment:


  • JJR512
    replied
    Originally posted by CaptOldTimer View Post
    Justin, I am truely sorry I bothered or reponded back to you.

    Rest assure, I won't again!

    Have a good life.
    Originally posted by SPFDRum View Post
    Well Justin J. Rebbert, you are quickly making an *** out of yourself. Have a nice day.
    Thanks! Same to both of you as well!


    Jonnee, yeah that's the one I remember...Well not directly, just from the show. I can't quite tell from that angle, but does it have a leather front mounted to the front? Do you recall or know if that's how they all were, or if that's how it was in the show? I have a vague recollection that in the show, they had simple sticker fronts, but I could very well be wrong...I watch that show almost every day, too, on RTV, but I can't quite picture it clearly in my mind.

    There's a picture of the current Topgard at MSA's website (http://www.msanorthamerica.com/catalog/product795.html). I still don't know why they changed it, it seems like it might have made more sense to just give a new name to the completely different newer design.

    Leave a comment:


  • SPFDRum
    replied
    Well Justin J. Rebbert, you are quickly making an *** out of yourself. Have a nice day.

    Leave a comment:

300x600 Ad Unit (In-View)

Collapse

Upper 300x250

Collapse

Taboola

Collapse

Leader

Collapse
Working...
X