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  • #46
    [QUOTE=sts060;750328]Why, you call in a bigger plane if course....

    Here you go.



    Should probably take care of your average minivan, no?

    QUOTE]

    Naw,better get a C-5 or -17 tricked out as an aerial tanker for the job.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by EFD840 View Post
      Never seen that one, are they as much fun as gas grill propane cylinders in the trunk?
      About as fun as pulling up an a Mazda something-or-another and attempting to gain access to the engine through the hood (which happened to be the trunk) and putting your axe head through a 5 gallon gas can stashed in there. Kinda makes you jump a little...

      Another little tip I picked up in a training session not too long ago is that when you knock out a headlight housing, it usually* creates a nice little hole (sometimes theres more metal back there) thats perfect for sticking a nozzle in. It takes practice, but it's better than opening the hood and having that **** flare up in your face!

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      • #48
        As an industrial fire fighter I am well aware of how pressurized vessels respond in fire conditions. However, I never considered that I would dealing with pressured cylinders very often when I joined the volunteer department half a year ago. The department is pretty small, and training is sporadic and hard to come by, so this thread has really opened my eyes around the hazards of vehicle fires.

        I especially liked the power point presentations from

        http://www.airbagsystems.org/id1.html

        and plan on sending the link to the chief in hopes of seeing it again at future training. The other info shared in the thread is really helpful as well, and I'll store it all in this huge memory database I am having to keep in my head......

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        • #49
          Thanks feller's
          Courage, Being Scared to Death and Saddling Up anyways.

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          • #50
            I just stand out of the smoke, how about you?
            Holy crap I was in like a two hour lecture because of crap like this.

            Got brought up what if the trunk was full of oxygen or acetylene bottles and you were next to it when it blew up.....


            but wait... why would I be standing right next to a car when it was burning?
            The Box. You opened it. We Came...

            "You'll take my life but I'll take your's too. You'll fire musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack, you'll better understand there's no turn back."

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            • #51
              Originally posted by JHR1985 View Post
              Holy crap I was in like a two hour lecture because of crap like this.

              Got brought up what if the trunk was full of oxygen or acetylene bottles and you were next to it when it blew up.....


              but wait... why would I be standing right next to a car when it was burning?
              What if there was a hydrogen bomb in the trunk and you were only 100 yards away? What if it was a midget with a machine gun?
              I am a complacent liability to the fire service

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              • #52
                What if there was a hydrogen bomb in the trunk and you were only 100 yards away? What if it was a midget with a machine gun?

                Well.... I guess my Kevlar supported PPE with my under armour flak jacket would shield me a little bit.

                Or... I could just wear two hoods.... that should do it.

                But just think..... if that trunk had a gas tank in it... how much more "protection" i would have it i had my full bunkers on compared to 3/4's.....


                whew... stirring the pot
                The Box. You opened it. We Came...

                "You'll take my life but I'll take your's too. You'll fire musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack, you'll better understand there's no turn back."

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                • #53
                  But just think..... if that trunk had a gas tank in it... how much more "protection" i would have it i had my full bunkers on compared to 3/4's.....

                  That' s Cold !!!
                  http://www.midsouthrescue.org
                  Is it time to change our training yet ?

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by JHR1985 View Post
                    Well.... I guess my Kevlar supported PPE with my under armour flak jacket would shield me a little bit.

                    Or... I could just wear two hoods.... that should do it.

                    But just think..... if that trunk had a gas tank in it... how much more "protection" i would have it i had my full bunkers on compared to 3/4's.....


                    whew... stirring the pot


                    Congratulations you get the big spoon award!
                    Last edited by Lewiston2Capt; 01-08-2007, 02:48 PM.
                    Shawn M. Cecula
                    Firefighter
                    IACOJ Division of Fire and EMS

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by JHR1985 View Post
                      Well.... I guess my Kevlar supported PPE with my under armour flak jacket would shield me a little bit.
                      Or... I could just wear two hoods.... that should do it.
                      But just think..... if that trunk had a gas tank in it... how much more "protection" i would have it i had my full bunkers on compared to 3/4's.....
                      whew... stirring the pot
                      You don't have your own proximity suit?They "only" run $2500 in the Galls catalog.

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                      • #56
                        You don't have your own proximity suit?They "only" run $2500 in the Galls catalog
                        No no no

                        I just wear one of those anti-bear attack suits that Homer Simpson invented underneath my 3 layers of PPE that I wear to protect me.
                        The Box. You opened it. We Came...

                        "You'll take my life but I'll take your's too. You'll fire musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack, you'll better understand there's no turn back."

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                        • #57
                          piercing nozzles for car fires

                          Has anyone used or had any experience with using a piercing nozzle on car fires?

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                          • #58
                            UH HELLO.....

                            If you dolts would just "stop at green lights", you wouldn't have to put the fire out. The car would be on the wrecker by the time you get there.


                            Originally posted by ThNozzleMan
                            Why? Because we are firemen. We are decent human beings. We would be compelled by the overwhelming impulse to save an innocent child from a tragic, painful death because in the end, we are MEN.

                            I A C O J
                            FTM-PTB


                            Honorary Disclaimer: While I am a manufacturer representative, I am not here to sell my product. Any advice or knowledge shared is for informational purposes only. I do not use Firehouse.Com for promotional purposes.

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                            • #59
                              to get sorta back on topic.... this month's firehouse has an article about hydrochloric acid and car fires. Mentions how smoke can be full of it from a car fire.


                              So... dont stand next to a car on fire. Seems simple to me
                              The Box. You opened it. We Came...

                              "You'll take my life but I'll take your's too. You'll fire musket but I'll run you through. So when your waiting for the next attack, you'll better understand there's no turn back."

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by LCFD302 View Post
                                Has anyone used or had any experience with using a piercing nozzle on car fires?
                                A piercing nozzle works great on a car fire if the department has one, most do not.
                                Be very careful where you drive it, if you are using one on newer cars, many have trunk mounted batteries, some have airbag canisters mount in the front portion of the quarter panel (VW Jetta), some have batteries on both sides under the hood, some under the rear seat, and of coarse who wants to be the first to drive one through the center of the hood and your buddies find out that there was a hybrid invertor with three 450 volt capacitors in there that took you out.

                                But they are great if you are careful, Not opening the hood or trunk lid allows for extremely good steam conversion, the best extingusher we have.
                                http://www.midsouthrescue.org
                                Is it time to change our training yet ?

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