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  • #76
    do your chin strap up on your helmet. it might be annoying having to unbuckle the thing when you take your mask off, but it is more than worth the risk.
    "There are only two things that i know are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And im not so sure about the former."

    For all the life of me, i cant see a firefighter going to hell. At least not for very long. We would end up putting out all the fires and annoying the devil too much.

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    • #77
      Tricks

      For MVA's I have set up a small plastic toolbox and marked it the "Quick attack box". It is on our rescue and contains all the little items you need at most MVA's. Window punch, duct tape, linemans plyers for removing battery terminals or cutting cables, shave cream, tennis ball, screwdriver for inflator hunting, piece of webbing to secure doors, seatbelt cutters, box knife, and probably an item or two I cant think of right now. This saves my guys from havin to carry this stuff in their pockets and risking injury and saves us from havin to make a million trips back to the rescue. We set the box at the base of the windshield, on the hood for all to dig into.

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      • #78
        cappyy: what is the tennis ball for in your mva box?
        i like the idea of having everything together, especially all the smaller items.

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        • #79
          I have seen tennis balls used to cover the ends of the A pillars that are cut.
          ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
          Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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          • #80
            Originally posted by CaptainGonzo
            I have seen tennis balls used to cover the ends of the A pillars that are cut.

            gotcha. i've seen sections of old 5" hose, no tennis balls.

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            • #81
              Tennis ball

              We use the tennis ball in case its just fluids down and we want to play a game of catch(insert smiley face here if I could figure the damn thing out).

              Seriously...One tennis ball, wrapped with duct tape for a better grip and forced under the door handle of the door you are trying to pop. Now with the spreaders forcing the door at the latch, the ball helps the door to pop alot quicker because it keeps the latch in the opened position.

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              • #82
                Cool.
                I know having the latch open helps, that sounds like a good trick.

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                • #83
                  I feel that its alot safer than havin someone hold the door handle up with their hand in case the door pops with any force. It works for us.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by NDeMarse
                    Hardwood floors are easy enough. Pike through the floor then pry backwards on the adz (it is it's own fulcrum) to rip up a board. Move to a joist and slide the pike under the floor and pull towards the adz using the joist as a fulcrum. I have never really found a need to rip up a hardwood floor at a fire. The drills that I have attended in case it was needed, the halligan works great. I have used both tools though

                    Chopping a windshild can be done with the short strokes using the forked end. I guess it would be faster to do with an axe, so you might have me here. Then again, we have to get the posts cut, so we might have some time to do it with the forks or go get the windshield saw or saw-zall.

                    I don't cut peaked roofs, so I am not up there to use either tool. I have used a pick-axe on a peaked roof prior to my career here, and I prefer either a maul, sledge or the back of the flathead axe to bash though. A halligan can be used, use the corner of the tool between the adz and the pike end. Opens up a larger area, but it will be more work since it is lighter.

                    I do think it is easier to punch out a trunk lock with a halligan. The shorter tool allows for better accuracy if you are doing a 1 man swing. If you are not doing a 1 man operation (usually there are plenty of FFs looking for work at autos) you have a strike surface on the other side of the point so it can be driven through the lock.

                    I think it is also easier to peel a auto hood back. Drive the pike into the hood and pry backwards over the adz (just like on the wood floor) and it will open up a large corner of the hood.

                    However, my choice for getting under the hood at an auto fire is to break out the front grill (obviously after the main body of fire is knocked down), find the hood release cord, put the wire between the forks and twist several times to the right. This will operate the hood release just like if you pulled it from the interior. Open the hood and chock it open. After that, I have heard differing opinions, but I've always used the fork end to pry the terminals off of the battery. I have never heard of anyone being zapped, but I suppose it could happen.

                    I've been arguing pickhead vs halligan for awhile brother! Don't get me wrong, I love tradition. If I had to chose 1 tool to bring in to a burning building for versatility it would definately be a halligan tool over a pickhead.

                    Don't mistake my dislike of the pick-head axe as a bash on your department or tools. You guys work great with pickheads and there are several members that really know the capabilities of the tool. This has stirred quite a bit of discussion on the different tasks that can be accomplished with both tools. Nice job!
                    Isn't a halligan a prying tool?

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                    • #85
                      tight door jam

                      I hope this one was'nt posted already, I did'nt see it!

                      If you have to force a door by yourself (outward opening door). If the jamb is real tight you can take your door chock and drive it into the jam. This should (not always) spread the door enough for you to get a purchace with your haligan.

                      PS GREAT THREAD LADIES and GENTS. reading some cool stuff.

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                      • #86
                        This is for the pump operators,

                        Ever get that emergency call when you have hose on the ground (training or such) and have to disconnect the pre-connect in a quick fashion. Instead of leaving 50’ connected to the truck or climbing up on the rig to disconnect it at the discharge, make yourself a 10’ pigtail for each pre-connect. Saves a lot of time, just disconnect the pigtail from the attack line and you’re off.

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                        • #87
                          Cut up a few lengths of PVC pipe about 30cm (1') and cut out a strip about 25mm(1") thick down the side of it. cut a couple of holes in it for easier gripping. and use it to cover up all the sharp edges when you are cutting a car up. Dont know if you yanks do that as standard, so if you do, my apologies.

                          Also have some precut chocks for stabilising cars. I have seen some really neat storage systems for them on trucks, but i dont know if i can describe them using words alone.
                          "There are only two things that i know are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And im not so sure about the former."

                          For all the life of me, i cant see a firefighter going to hell. At least not for very long. We would end up putting out all the fires and annoying the devil too much.

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                          • #88
                            captjab- We have pigtails on all our preconnects including 2 1/2. You are correct sir, they come in real handy. By the way, we bought ours.

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                            • #89
                              ::::Bump::::
                              Proud East Coast Traditionalist.

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                              • #90
                                When making the bottom cut on an enlarged opening, what is the best way to make the initial cut to keep the chainsaw from "jumping" to the side? Do you rev up the rpm's on the saw and force the saw in? Do you hold the saw at an angle?
                                28 P.R.I.D.E.
                                Protecting Residents In District #1 Everyday
                                www.westmead1.com

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