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VES in 2019

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  • VES in 2019

    For years when performing VES we used the ladder to break the window when initially setting it. This allowed the room to equalize while the firefighter masked up, ascended and cleared the window before entry and resulted in a little less exertion while fully taking the window on air.

    Now we are teaching about flow path management and this practice would seem to have potential negative consequences, especially if the VES maneuver is abandoned or delayed after the window is taken. Another consideration is that most newer windows will resist a ladder drop far better than 15-20 years ago. Any FD's out there specifically changing their SOG's or training to reflect flowpath?

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    The ladder tip is placed at the lower window sill the VES firefighter climbs up and looks into the room to check conditions. If the room is heavily involved in fire then the window is not broken as VES would not occur. If the room is tenable then the window is broken and VES occurs. Immediately upon entry the VES firefighter goes to the door makes a quick check of the hallway right outside the door for victims and then shuts the door. The VES firefighter then searches the room.
    Crazy, but that's how it goes
    Millions of people living as foes
    Maybe it's not too late
    To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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    • #3
      Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
      The ladder tip is placed at the lower window sill the VES firefighter climbs up and looks into the room to check conditions. If the room is heavily involved in fire then the window is not broken as VES would not occur. If the room is tenable then the window is broken and VES occurs. Immediately upon entry the VES firefighter goes to the door makes a quick check of the hallway right outside the door for victims and then shuts the door. The VES firefighter then searches the room.
      Pretty much sums it up, was hoping maybe a few others might drift in and start more tactical discussions again.

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