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  • #16
    We are in the process of replacing all of our 1 1/2" attack lines with 1 3/4" lines at one of my VFDs. It took some convincing but finally the Chief bought into my suggestion. . In addition we are purchasing 150gpm/50psi nozzles and 7/8" smoothbores for our crosslays. To the best of my knowledge, we will be the only department running with smoothbores on our 1 3/4" lines in this area.

    We will have one smoothbore crosslay and one combination crosslay on each engine. One one engine we have a foam crosslay, which will be a combination nozzle and the bumper-mounted car fire line will be a smoothbore.
    Train to fight the fires you fight.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by dfelix22000us View Post
      The Chief XD's are awesome- we just got 2 of them for our primary attack engine. Integrated 15/16" smoothbore in the shutoff, and the fog tip screws on beyond that. Both setups are rated for 50 psi at the nozzle; 185 gpm smoothbore and I think 175 (or was it 170?) for the fog tip. When we demo'd the nozzle, we noticed better stream appearance with the integrated smoothbore alone vs a 15/16" stream straightener tip beyond the bale. They sure beat the heck out of the old Akron SaberJets they replaced...
      We have older Elkhart 200 gpm at 75 psi nozzles with a 1 1/4 slug tip on our 2 inch lines. We underpump the combo tip to 55 psi to get 160 gpm, of course can dop 200 gpm at 75 psi and if that isn't enough spin off the combo tip and do 300 ay just over 40 psi with the slug tip.

      We have been using this set up for almost 2 decades and there is no clamor to go back to 1 3/4 and 2 1/2 inch lines.
      Crazy, but that's how it goes
      Millions of people living as foes
      Maybe it's not too late
      To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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      • #18
        Originally posted by tbzep View Post
        I'm afraid that a change may not happen during my lifetime, much less my career.
        Isn't it a morale killer to realize that change won't occur until certain people retire or quit?
        Crazy, but that's how it goes
        Millions of people living as foes
        Maybe it's not too late
        To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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        • #19
          Originally posted by FyredUp View Post

          Isn't it a morale killer to realize that change won't occur until certain people retire or quit?
          Especially when if they really are flowing 100GPM in a so-called firefighting stream. Recipe for disaster IMO.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by captnjak View Post

            Especially when if they really are flowing 100GPM in a so-called firefighting stream. Recipe for disaster IMO.
            I get where you are coming from with that. We went from 125 gpm 1 1/2 inch lines to 160/200/300 2 inch lines.

            It makes me cringe when I see flows like that, especially now when people are flowing 20 gpm or less with UHP.
            Crazy, but that's how it goes
            Millions of people living as foes
            Maybe it's not too late
            To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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            • #21
              Originally posted by FyredUp View Post

              Isn't it a morale killer to realize that change won't occur until certain people retire or quit?
              even worse is when changes doesn't happen when you suggest the idea, but when someone else suggest the idea, those in white hats think it's a great idea and tell you to implement it.
              If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

              FF/EMT/DBP

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              • #22
                Originally posted by drparasite View Post
                even worse is when changes doesn't happen when you suggest the idea, but when someone else suggest the idea, those in white hats think it's a great idea and tell you to implement it.
                At one of my career FDs I used to feed ideas to a senior MPO so they would have some weight. He would pass them on as his ideas and next thing I know it was being implemented. Got what I wanted done. I just did not get the credit.
                Crazy, but that's how it goes
                Millions of people living as foes
                Maybe it's not too late
                To learn how to love, and forget how to hate

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                • #23
                  Ta gots to do what ya gots to do.
                  Train to fight the fires you fight.

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