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    Does anyone know of a peosha/osha standard for hand protection for extrication? Our department still mandates that we use NFPA compliant structural firefighting gloves extrications.

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    gloves

    Our department uses Ringer extrication gloves. They have great dexterity, and are very comfortable. They are only about $40.

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    • #3
      As of yet, I don't think there is a NFPA standard about extrication gloves.

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      • #4
        We would like to be able to use ringers or leather work gloves, but until we can find something in osha/peosha or nfpa that says it's ok, our chiefs will not let us.

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        • #5
          I have found that leather work gloves work best because they are very inexpensive compared to ringers type gloves and they’re not hard to part with when they become soiled with fluids such as blood. My departments SOP’s state that all rescuers at the scene of an extrication wear latex or nitrile gloves underneath their work or extrication gloves, even if they are not providing direct patient care . I too am unaware of any NFPA standards pertaining to extrication gloves.

          Originally posted by apwjjp
          Our department still mandates that we use NFPA compliant structural firefighting gloves extrications.
          Just wondering if you throw away your structural gloves if they become soiled with blood or other fluids?

          I personally would hate wearing structural gloves during rescue ops. for many reasons, the main being the fact that they would get hydraulic fluid all over them and become very slippery and oily. In my opinion thats more unsafe that not using extrication or leather gloves because they aren't sanctioned by the NFPA.

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          • #6
            The local glove manufacturer here tells me that NFPA is very close to coming out with an extrication glove standard. Perhaps Mr. Moore has some insight on that?

            Have you looked into the Chiba Sport "Flame Fighter" glove? I believe this is the only place in the USA that is selling them:

            http://www.anclotefire.com/extricationgloves.htm

            I have three pairs. One in my fire gear, one with my motorsports rescue gear and a spare set I keep at home. They are a little heavier than your traditional "extrication" glove, but they are less bulky than structural firefighting gloves. They meet NFPA 1971 standard and they also offer some protection from blood borne pathogens.

            I have never been a fan of extrication gloves because they offer no fire protection properties. While the chances of a flash fire happening during an extrication should be small, I prefer not to have a nylon glove melted on my hand for that one-in-a-million times that it happens.
            Last edited by MetalMedic; 04-09-2006, 01:13 AM.
            Richard Nester
            Orrville (OH) Fire Dept.

            "People don't care what you know... until they know that you care." - Scott Bolleter

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            • #7
              That is a real nice looking set of gloves. They would save a lot of money when it comes to buying gloves I would think. How much do they cost ruffly,the website does not say.
              Stay Safe and live long

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sfdtim11
                That is a real nice looking set of gloves. They would save a lot of money when it comes to buying gloves I would think. How much do they cost ruffly,the website does not say.
                I believe the last set I bought were $106.00... which at first seems like a lot until you consider how much you would spend on a good pair of structure gloves and a good set of extrication gloves. Then consider the added convenience of putting on just one glove and you are good to go for anything and the price sounds much more reasonable.
                Richard Nester
                Orrville (OH) Fire Dept.

                "People don't care what you know... until they know that you care." - Scott Bolleter

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                • #9
                  We DO NOT support the use of extrication gloves.Too many personnel were being injured when using them.Leather work gloves or dept issued structural gloves.Plus as Medic pointed out,no fire resistance. T.C.

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                  • #10
                    We are not issued extrication gloves by our dept. but many of us have purchased them on our own. They are wonderful! So much better than structural FF gloves.

                    Regardless of what type of gloves you wear, ALWAYS wear a pair of exam gloves under them. Never, ever trust the integrity of the outer gloves barrier.

                    If the gloves you use for extrication become contaminated, they can be de-conned in a gear washer. If you use dedicated firefighting gloves or Flame Fighters for extrication, you'd better have a back-up pair of ff gloves in case the first pair becomes contaminated...You don't want to have to wear bloody gloves on your next call.

                    On a side note, I am not as concerned as some are with regards to the amount of thermal resistance of extrication gloves in a fire situation.

                    We do not wear SCBA during extrications. If there is a flash fire, my face, head and respiratory tract will be my primary concerns.
                    We ALWAYS have a charged hose-line that is continually manned and at the ready throughout the entire extrication for protection of the FFs and victims from fire.

                    If the vehicle is reported involved (or believed to be involved) in fire , we will be in full SCBA and firefighting gloves upon our arrival. We will still have exam gloves underneath though, so that patient care/extrication can begin ASAP.




                    Kevin
                    Last edited by fireman4949; 04-10-2006, 10:17 AM.
                    Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
                    IAFF Local 2339
                    K of C 4th Degree
                    "LEATHER FOREVER"
                    Member I.A.C.O.J.
                    http://www.tfdfire.com/
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                    • #11
                      Thermal concerns of extrication gloves are not limited to fire. A/C lines,heater hoses,hot engine parts,and sharp metal edges head my list of why we do not endorse their use.A simple leather work glove has proven to be better protection for our members than any current offering in the extrication glove line.We have documented injuries in ALL of the above areas with members wearing the extrication glove.If your agency chooses to allow their use,that's fine.Having worn both,I prefer the work glove both for price and protection.But extrication gloves are improving with every issue so I guess I'll just wait and see. T.C.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by fireman4949
                        If the gloves you use for extrication become contaminated, they can be de-conned in a gear washer. If you use dedicated firefighting gloves or Flame Fighters for extrication, you'd better have a back-up pair of ff gloves in case the first pair becomes contaminated...You don't want to have to wear bloody gloves on your next call.
                        The Chiba Sport Flame Fighter gloves can be washed just like your turn-out gear can be washed. There is no leather in them, so they don't get stiff or shrink. I have washed mine a couple times in our extractor washer and they come out looking like brand new.
                        Richard Nester
                        Orrville (OH) Fire Dept.

                        "People don't care what you know... until they know that you care." - Scott Bolleter

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                        • #13
                          I purchased a pair of XL gloves after trying on a pair at the Fire Rescue International in Dallas last year. I loved the way the felt both operating hose lines and extrications. Unfortunately I now have nothing good to say about my gloves. I had these gloves for only 5 months and used them on 2 extrications and a couple of training exercises and they started to fall apart. Yes, while performing simple hose evolutions, both my right and left glove came apart at the thumb. This is when it gets even better! I contacted Chiba Sports and advised them of the problem. They advised that they would exchange them out with a new pair and I should have a new pair no more than 2 weeks. Well 1 month went by and I contacted Chiba, they claimed that they were all out of stock and they were waiting for their shipment. Something about customs, payment, shipping, etc... was holding there shipment up. THAT’S RIGHT!! These gloves are made outside of the great USA. Anyway, another month goes by and still… no gloves. It is now 2 months and my gloves, just made it here from who knows where. I owe it to my brother and sister firefighters to stay away from these gloves, because there product and customer service is the worst I have dealt with. Yes they are comfortable, but when used, not reliable. I have attached photos of the gloves falling apart. Save your money and go with another product!!!

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                          • #14
                            Protech 8's!!! I have extrication gloves that are collecting dust since I got my Protech's. Fully NFPA compliant for structural work with the dexterity of a regular work glove and $50 less than the Chiba's. IllinoisFireStore.com

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                            • #15
                              Pro Techs #1

                              I've got 2 pairs of Pro-Tech 8...They are awesome Ive used them in 4 working fires .(REALLY WORKING) I felt no heat in my hands at all. Ive also used them at Extircations and they work awesome aswell. The dexterity is amazing in this glove. The best part is they are NFPA...
                              However I still have Ringers as my main Extrication glove.. For those stating they are ripping up their gloves what on earth are you doing with them. Extrication is 90% tool work.. Your hands are on the tools. How are you wrecking them? So your gloves dont fall apart dont wash in an Top load Washer. and let hang dry never put in the dryer

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