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Quick attach blade sawsalls- pro/con
Mt Holly SPrings FD. (Pa) I'm collecting info on these new saws. Does anyone have experiance with these new type blade attachments. We are shopping for new saws for our Rescue Co. We are considering either Dewalt or Milwakiee brand saws. Can anyone Help me? Would like to know if theses attachments really work. Thanks
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In this months Firehouse magizine under univ of extrication,Ron Moore gives you the pros and cons of both the dewalt and milwaukee sawsaws. The dewalt has the better keyless chuck design, it is easier to work with then milwaukee in my opinion.
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Matthew Hassel
Claymont Fire Co.
Claymont,Delaware
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We have cordless and 120V Milwaulkee sawzalls and they are the only function of the tools I dislike. I thought they would be great, but we have alot of problems with releasing blades while working and being difficult to operate once they heat up and get loaded with debris. With the new "demolition" style blades I'm not even sure that we need the "quick change" chuck, the blades don't break anymore during use!Comment
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I have a question for the Hal, are you using the Torch blades by Milwaukee? Also what guage & length blades are you using?
One problem that I see is that the average do it yourselfer blades are heat up too quickly and are too short. As soon as they hit a double wall with the point they brake. This is regardless to the make.
Also for Tim, you can get a sales rep to demo the tools in your area from both companies. Get the same spec tool and use the same blade with the same speed. Volts is not as important as amps, so I was told by the rep from Milwaukee. A corded tool will out perform a cordless, especially the Super Sawsall with the orbital feature.
Torch blades come in heavier gauges, one requires a special chuck. I have a 18v cordless as a demo tool from Milwaukee and it has worked well so far. I haven't had a chance to try it out on a school bus yet with double walls but you can check back with me and I will let you know.
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Ron Shaw
http://www.extrication.comComment
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We're using Lennox Demo blades.. i believe it is the the 960R and the 610R. 6 and 9 inch blades. No problems breaking, just releasing the blades while we cutComment
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Back in August my deptartments extrication team competed in a tournament and we used just hand tools for the first time.
Everyone on the team was impressed on how well the sawzalls worked both corded and battery operated.
We already had a corded milwaukee then we got a 18volt dewalt with the quick chuck and it works very well if the blade does break a blade change is just a second away.
(Ron what is a torch blade and what is it's advantages?)
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AJM108
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Tim: In March we purchased a Milwaukee super sawsall with keyless chuck. Theytold us they were having problems with the quick change bit getting clogged up with all sorts of material. They told us they were coming out with a retofit kit for it. We just sent it in for the retrofit and when we got it back it was the old style with the allen screw. I am not happy and have a call into Milwaukee now and am waiting for a reply. If I had known I would have purchased a Dewault instead. All I have heard is good about them.Comment
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I have been using a Porter Cable Tiger saw with the quick release blade clamp for about 2 years and I am very happy with the saw and the blade clamp. I teach extrication and use the saw quite regularly. I have experienced a few jams with debris in the clamp which required the use of a pair of pliers in order to turn the clamp to release - no big deal after the first time and I knew what to do.
I have used Milwalkie brand saws on many occasions and have been pleased but the early quick clamps would not work well with the Lenox 960R demolition blade as the blade was too thick for the clamp. Later versions have fixed this problem.
I am a big believer in the recip. saw but the secret is in the blades and of course the skill of the user. For blades I strongly recommend the Lenox 650R "rescue blade" and the Lenox 960R "demolition blade" for most work. If you need a extra long blade the Starrett "Fast Cut" can be had in a 12" length. Skill requires that people practice with the saw.
[This message has been edited by Clark Tyson (edited December 12, 1999).]Comment
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