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  • FFTrainer
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    Perhaps we can solve all the confusion here and say we're talking about "restricted space" vs. confined space -- you know "I got a piece of metal stuck somewhere it really shouldnt be and I need you to get it out.... "

    I can't recall seeing any of those types of tools. Can you or somebody else in this forum post a link so I can check them out.
    If you look back at my original post I make reference to being able to place the control head (i.e 'trigger') anywhere along your line of hoses and actually if you look at the original post of this thread you have a link to a photo of a tool with this feature.

    FYI to all TNT users... a rep I spoke to at one of the big expo type shows told me TNT was working on the spreader equivalent of this restricted space cutter. I'll be curious to see if it comes to life and how it works!

    Stay Safe!

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  • Rescue101
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    Would ya,could ya, did ya?

    Sfd,I believe you and I had this discussion somewhere in the past but here I go.Yes I have run the Powerhawk on several occasions.The best I could ever get out of it was 1.5 cars.Due in part to not being totally familiar with the tool I'm sure.I did come to the following conclusions.If you don't have a tool,it's a lot better than nothing or a hand tool.If you're used to the class of equipment I operate regularly,it pales in comparison.I live in a rural area with a lot of heavy duty traffic,and oodles of trees.We use Holmatro equipment,not that I regard it as the last word in tools but they certainly have served us well.In NO WAY shape or manner will the 'hawk perform some of the severe metal moving I've had to do in my career here.Plus Holmatro has come out with a couple nifty goodies that allow you to work in extremely tight areas.If the Powerhawk works for you and your needs,far be it from me to advise you to look elsewhere.The system does not meet the needs of my Dept. in my opinion and in the opinion of other officers in the Dept.Additionally I'm not a big fan of cordless anything although they certainly have their place.For a Metro type outfit I think the tool would fill a gap but for a majority of the jobs we do I prefer hyds.The ability to use the 'hawks powerpak for other purposes certainly adds to it's value.T.C.

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  • Resq14
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    Originally posted by Zmagrescue
    Another beauty of the TNT system is that it is comaptable (o geess, here we go with a whole new thread again) with all other systems. You can order one of these cutters to go with your Amkus, Holmatro, Hurst or whatever.
    Interesting. Very cool.

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  • Zmagrescue
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    A very good picture is at www.tntrescue.com, click on "cutters" then page down to see the "Confined Space Cutter" The tool that you hold and work with is ONLY the cutter itself, the operating valve is in between your tool and power plant with whatever length of hose you need. Yes, this may be a two man job, but getting back to my "interior guy standing on his head situation" a remote operator is a good thing. Another beauty of the TNT system is that it is comaptable (o geess, here we go with a whole new thread again) with all other systems. You can order one of these cutters to go with your Amkus, Holmatro, Hurst or whatever. It is not the one and only stand alone cutter, but it sure is a nice addition.

    Zmag

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  • sfdeng2
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    Remote Control

    Bones,

    I can't recall seeing any of those types of tools. Can you or somebody else in this forum post a link so I can check them out.

    thanks,

    SFD

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  • Bones42
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    SFD, remoteley operated meaning the actuating trigger/handle/device is a distance away from the cutting/spreading end. There are some tools out there that allow a hose to be between the cutting/spreading end and the "trigger", which allows for operation in an even smaller area.

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  • sfdeng2
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    Res101,

    According to the origonal post on this thread, all that was mentioned was "Confined Space". Which led me to believe we were talking about the OSHA interpretation. You're right PowerHawk is not the tool for "Confined Auto Extrication" such as a foot stuck under a pedal.

    As for the remote operations statement. I'm wondering what you mean by "the hawk can't be remotely operated"? The "PowerHawk" can go more places than a hydraulic tool.

    And I agree 100% with Zmag's last posting.

    I wonder, Where have you seen the Powerhawk in use and have you ever used it?

    SFD

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  • Zmagrescue
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    I think we are confusing 2 differant kinds of "confined". In the extrication world confined means a tight area, such as the victims foot under the brake pedal, a gear shift knob into a rib cage, a really awkward place where your interior guy has to stand on his head the perform the needed cut. It is my belief that is what "extrication confined space cutters" do. We are not talking about fuel tanks, manholes or the "osha" confined spaces. And yes, the TNT cutter designed for this job is an excellant tool.

    Zmag

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  • Rescue101
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    Not close

    Nothing currently produced by Powerhawk will fit in and /or operate in the limited space of the TnT tool in question.Also correct is the type of hyd. fluid being used.There are but a few true confined/or narrow space cutters available and depending on your definition of confined space(not the OHSA version)I don't consider the "hawk in this group as it can't be remotely operated.Again,just my opinion.T.C.

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  • FFTrainer
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    We have a full set of TNT tools including the confined space cutter and have had absolutely no complaints. The little cutter gets in some pretty tight places for pedals, etc. I like that you are not bound by anything other than the amount of hose you carry on your apparatus. What I mean is the control head can be place anywhere along the line (i.e. directly to the cutter 15' away or 50' away or anywhere in between depending on your hose lengths)

    Hope this helps!

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  • sfdeng2
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    New Thread

    NRZ2334, Bones42,

    Guys, I started a new Thread for this discussion. NRZ2334 is looking for info about the TNT Cutter and I didn't want to clutter his Thread with this discussion.

    SFDENG2

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  • Bones42
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    From the PowerHawk website....

    "The carrying case is fully vented to allow any hydrogen gas exhausted by the battery to safely diffuse without dangerous buildups."
    Wouldn't hyrdrogen gas in a confined space become a hazard?

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  • nrz2334
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    FYI

    FYI TNT does not use hydrolic fluid in ther tools they use mineral oil check the facts before making statements about hazardous materials.

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  • sfdeng2
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    Question?

    Why would you want to bring Hazardous Materials into a confined space environment? i.e. hydraulic fluid. Check-out www.powerhawk.com find the dealer in your area and request a demo. If you want a nonbias opinion, contact the guys from Spec Rescue and ask them for their thoughts about the tool. It's great for confined space, remote rescue, auto extrication and R.I.T. team operations. It's probrably the fastest deployed tool on the market that covers all the bases in one tool.

    SFDENG2

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  • SSHANK42
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    WE HAVE HAD OUR TNT TOOLS FOR ABOUT 4 YEARS NOW. SO FAR SO GOOD. WHEN WE FIRST ORDERED THEM THE MINI CUTTER WAS NOT AVAILABLE WITH A CONTROL VALVE SO WE HAD TO USE A HAND PUMP, SIMILIAR TO A PORTA-POWER PUMP. THIS WAS NOT THE BEST SET UP BUT IT DID WORK. TNT TOLD US THAT THEY WERE WORKING ON A REMOTE VALVE AND THAT IT WOULD BE HOOKED TO THE GAS POWER UNIT. SURE ENOUGH THE NEW VALVE CAME IN THE MAIL A FEW MONTHS LATER ALONG WITH A SECTION OF HOSE. VERY NICE. THERE IS ENOUGH HOSE THAT THE VALVE CAN BE AWAY FOM THE CUTTER SO YOU CAN GET INTO SOME SMALL PLACES. WE HAVE USED IT TO CUT BRAKE PEDALS, GEAR SHIFTERS, STEERING WHEEL RINGS, REBAR, AND WINDOW FRAMES. HOPE THIS HELPS.

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