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  • GTRider245
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    A co-worker of mine busted a fairlead on a brand new Warn M15000 that way. It wasn't pretty.

    As far as the jacks go, great tools to have. I agree with whoever said get a name brand Hi-Lift. I believe we talked about using them to lift a wheel/tire without letting the suspension get to full travel on here some time ago. You can also pop a door with one if you have to.
    Last edited by rmoore; 10-23-2010, 10:50 PM.

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  • Rescue101
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    As long as you know that's OK. A LOT of folks don't and it will eventually cause you a headache. T.C.
    Last edited by Rescue101; 10-12-2010, 08:29 AM.

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  • HuntPA
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    That was pointed out to the students after they completed the scenario. The winch line was a reduntant system for the struts on the other side. They were not used to the struts as they were new so they wanted a back up for them.

    I have some other pictures of things that will make you wonder what they were thinking as well. For some reason, when we flip a tractor, logic can sometimes go out the window with people not used to rural equipment.

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  • Rescue101
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    Bending your wire at 90 around that SMALL roller really isn't a GOOD idea. Assuming you have 3/8's wire on your winch it should NEVER be bent at LESS than a three inch (3")radius. Just something that popped out at me from your picture. T.c.
    Last edited by rmoore; 10-23-2010, 10:49 PM.

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  • ejfeicht
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    Lots of good uses for them as stated above. Make sure that you are are getting a quality jack when purchasing them as there a lot of poor quality knock offs out there that will not hold up.

    These are the original Hi-Lift Jacks

    http://www.hi-lift.com/hi-lift-jacks/index.html

    The Jack Mate sold by Rescue 42 is also a nice accessory to use with your jacks.

    http://www.rescue42.com/jmr42.php

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  • HuntPA
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    You can attach chain grabs to the base, end, and lifting dog. We have used ours for dash rolls, pulling steering column, stabilizing, and of course lifting. We purchased ours with the off road kit. This included the grabs, soft soil bases, and mounting brackets.

    When using them, you do need to make sure that the base is solid, tied off, and does not move. They are somewhat "wobbly" when used towards the upper limits, but as stated when properly cribbed they are good. The biggest problem with ours is that we do not train with them or use them enough. They are a great (and relatively inexpensive) addition to any rescue.
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  • wrfdcap
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    yes the house jack or rail road jack is what i was speak of and is there a attment out there for the fire servce i thought i seen some thing in one of the fire mag being sold
    Last edited by wrfdcap; 08-30-2010, 08:07 AM. Reason: need to add

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  • slackjawedyokel
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    very versatile - they can lift-push-pull- stabalize. Biggest drawback is you need a lot of room to work the handle and you need to keep an eye on the dog that keeps it engaged.

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  • FiremanLyman
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    AKA House Jack? I have seen these used for years, though I find them a little dicey... have seen the latch fail on these. But if you are cribbing as you go like a good firefighter should--- My buddy sets up trailers for a living and swears by them.
    Last edited by rmoore; 10-23-2010, 10:48 PM.

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  • ffmedcbk1
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    i meant to type Res-Q Jack. i like them but our stupid little equipment budget is in our way of getting good things.

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  • BoxAlarm187
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    Originally posted by FiremanLyman View Post
    Are you refering to something like the Res-Q-Jack? http://www.res-q-jack.com/
    He'd probably referring to the high-lift (aka railroad) jacks such as:


    We carry two out in the country, and have used them on a couple of tractor roll-overs, but otherwise, they haven't seen a lot of work. Regardless, they were extremely good to have when we needed them, and wouldn't hesitate to put them on our next rescue also.

    As for the struts, yes, get some if you don't already have them. Having used both, I prefer the Res-q-Jacks over the Rescue42's, but both do a really nice job for stabilization.

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  • Rescue101
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    With Rescue 42's Hi lift accessories the Hi Lift can pull,push,and do a lot of Work, we have two on our Rescue Engine.They have a LOT of uses particularly in the rural setting. Wouldn't be without them. T.C.

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  • FiremanLyman
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    Are you refering to something like the Res-Q-Jack? http://www.res-q-jack.com/

    If so, than yes. I was not sold on them until the rep came and demo'ed them for us. I have always liked the standard struts. Great for securing a car on it's side or large vehicle. I think my prejudice against them was the ad in the magizine that shows them lifting a car 8 feet in the air (with no cribbing, just the jacks). Turns out that the picture was from a class where they had two cars on top of eachother and lifted the top car off to remove the bottom car. Still I don't think I would have done it like that, but OK.

    The rep used the jacks to lift the front end of a car on its side half a foot in the air, to simulate freeing a patient's arm pinned under the car. It was quicker and easier than using air bags, and the operation was safe. I am now a big fan. Picture attached.

    We then put the car on its roof and lifted the back end up enough to perform a trunk tunnel.

    The Res-Q-Jack is very versitile, and can still be used as a rescue strut with the added option to lift a little if needed.
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  • ffmedcbk1
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    they absolutely do have a place in some rescue work.

    they are a good piece if you are needing to lift but the drawbacks are that they have poor footing, small areas of contact, and need to be repositioned to get the best positioning (this is often due to the movement of the canilevering object being lifted over 6-12 inches).

    it would be better to get a rescue jack of similar set up for lifting and stabilzation.

    ensure you have a lot of cribbing and lift an inch and crib that inch as you go. also have a ground pad for use on softer surfaces. consider webbing loops and straps to stabilize the lifting.

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  • wrfdcap
    started a topic highlift jacks

    highlift jacks

    high lift jacks do thay have a place on a rescue truck this is some thing that has came up at the dept what your ideas

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