Student to instructor ratios

[coreymolinelli]

I need some information pretty fast and I am not in an area where I can look it up. Does anyone have a student to instructor ratio for technical rescue training? With references..... i.e. NFPA, OSHA etc. thanks
Corey

[bottrigg]

I've never heard of an official NFPA ratio. CMC uses about an 8:1 and Rigging for Rescue likes to stay around that number also. I've been in some OSHA classes that were more like 200:1.

[FiremanLyman]

Teach some tech rescue classes. Rule of thumb we use is 20:1 for presentation (such as power point), 12:1 in class instruction and 5:1 for field work.

[AFD696]

Great question. Take a look at NIOSH Report F2011-12. It is dated October 5th 2011. Basically in 2011 a FF died during a rope skills class and of the 3 contributing factors listed was Student to Instructor Ratio. The report goes on to say that during practical skills training the ratio should 5:1 and they used the IAFC Fire Service Instructor book as a reference for that number.

Not sure if the NFPA has a recommendation in 1041, the Fire Service Instructor standard, but I would ensure that my instructors are at least certified to that level before they get too far into teaching

[bottrigg]

Good stuff. Thanks for the info.

Great question. Take a look at NIOSH Report F2011-12. It is dated October 5th 2011. Basically in 2011 a FF died during a rope skills class and of the 3 contributing factors listed was Student to Instructor Ratio. The report goes on to say that during practical skills training the ratio should 5:1 and they used the IAFC Fire Service Instructor book as a reference for that number.

Not sure if the NFPA has a recommendation in 1041, the Fire Service Instructor standard, but I would ensure that my instructors are at least certified to that level before they get too far into teaching

[LaFireEducator]

Instructor I/II teaches 5:1 for field work.

[coreymolinelli]

Thanks for all the replies. I am in charge of a training program for soldiers, and we train them to operate in a contaminated environment so I have also been using the OSHA 29 CFR 1910.120 that says 5:1 for field work....... (Level A & B work) I'll look up that NIOSH report to help my case as well.

Thanks again.

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