Captains two bugles insignia - parallel or crossed?

[Captain Mike]

The traditional insignia for fire officers:
1 bugle - Lieutenant
2 bugles - Captain
3, 4, or 5 crossed bugles for batt chief, asst chief, and chief


With 3 or more bugles they are always crossed in some type of X-pattern, but with two bugles I have seen them in both a crossed pattern as well as a parallel pettern.

Which, if either, is the "traditional" pattern of the Captains bugles?

Thanks much.

[9C7]

Hi:

I've always understaood a Captain to have two parrallel silver bugles, with a District Chief or Batt Chief to have two crossed gold bugles.

For what it's worth...



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[FRED]

Capt.

I think it depends on how many layers of bueracacy a dept has.

Our has Capts with two parallel bugles.
Batt Chief two-crossed
Asst Chief (or Division)Three-crossed
Deputy Chief four crossed
Chief of Dept. Five crossed

If we had a Lt. positon I imagine we would have it with one bugle.

Although I have seen a few with Batt's having three bugles.

Hope that helps.

[DD]

Two bugles parallel = company captain.

Two bugles crossed = training divison captain.

I suppose that this has many different designations in the service.

[Bob Snyder]

I believe that the "traditional" rank insignia progression goes like this:

1 standing bugle = lieutenant
2 standing bugles = captain
2 crossed bugles = battalion chief
3 crossed bugles = deputy chief
4 crossed bugles = assistant chief
5 crossed bugles = chief

I've seen and heard of all sorts of variations on this, however.

[TriTownship600]

I was told a crossed bugle two, three or more means that you are the highest rank "commander" of your company unit, or station etc.

[CAPNJEFF1202]

My bugles are parallel. In my area we don't use 2 crossed. Battalion/Assistant Chiefs are 3 crossed. Deputy Chief is 4 crossed.