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    Hopefully today we will take delivery of our new pumper-tanker purchased with a 2005 grant.

    The new pumper-tanker will replace an existing tanker that we are taking out of service due to safety issues.

    The 2006 program guidance states that you have to certify that the truck was taken out of service - I do not see anything like that in the 2005 program guidance.

    What are our options for disposal? Can we sell the truck as is to someone other than a fire department or do we have to sell the truck only as scrap?

    Personally, I want to shoot a 44 mag through the radiator.

  • #2
    Are you close to any of the mine pits in SE Kansas?

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    • #3
      If you stated in your grant app that the vehicle needed to be taken out of service and off the road because it was unsafe, it can not be transferred to another dept. and should not be sold as a tanker.

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      • #4
        Guess I have more time to decide - truck being held hostage

        Dang $%^$#% dealer didn't deliver the truck - they had snow in their area and didn't want to deliver the truck when the roads weren't perfect.

        Ready to report the truck as stolen.

        4 months late and still waiting..................

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        • #5
          "how to dispose of" is by far more open to options than simply "documenting it is out of service".

          This forum is probably one of the best places on the web to solicit ideas to "dispose" of anything. Make sure you put the clip on YouTube afterwards, OK?

          In all seriousness, if you're not looking to gain a buck, I'd sell it on eBay with no reserve as-is, where-is, with clear caveats about its condition. With luck it'll be gone in ten days.
          You only have to be stupid once to be dead permanently
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          • #6
            Mitchkrat;

            That dealer didn't happen to be from northwest of you.....on I70?

            If he is, then it's a common ploy so he can drive it around and sell more.
            Joe Fireman

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            • #7
              Yep

              Originally posted by FFCOPEMT View Post
              Mitchkrat;

              That dealer didn't happen to be from northwest of you.....on I70?

              If he is, then it's a common ploy so he can drive it around and sell more.
              Yep - that's the one!

              Also - as far as I know the hose is not in for the truck yet - 2nd time we have had this problem with same dealer

              Update - now they are saying roads are still in such poor condition on I-70 that they can't attempt to deliver today. Another day of our truck being held hostage! But.. the hose may be delivered today, so we'll have the hose - but no truck.

              Should have had the truck shipped UPS!
              Last edited by mitchkrat; 02-14-2007, 12:16 PM. Reason: Update

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              • #8
                [QUOTE=ElectricHoser;771737]"how to dispose of" is by far more open to options than simply "documenting it is out of service".

                This forum is probably one of the best places on the web to solicit ideas to "dispose" of anything. Make sure you put the clip on YouTube afterwards, OK?

                I vote for donating it to Myth Busters and watching them blow it up or something else fun like that.

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                • #9
                  I'd suggest remove tank from the chassis. You can certainly handle this in house. Keep photos and records of disposal.

                  Sell or scrap tank. If tank holds water someone will pay you $ for it. If chassis is worth anything a farmer/contractor/etc will have interest at the right price.

                  Selling as an assembly looks like a bad idea if you pitched your need due to safety concerns that could not be solved. Even if the Fire Grant guys don't object, if you're knowingly transfering an unsafe vehicle you have liability exposure you don't need.

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                  • #10
                    Got the truck yesterday

                    Will post pics when I can get goods pics in daylight.

                    KW/Central States
                    2500 Gallon tank, 1250 gpm pump

                    Electric dumps on rear and on sides right behin pump panel
                    6" gated suction on drivers side and rear - have 2nd primers to prime before valves so can pre-fill suction line before opening.

                    Crosslays with foam

                    2 1.75"
                    1 2.5"

                    Rear preconnected Blitz Gun with 200' of 3"

                    600' of 3" supply

                    Akron Apollo deck gun with 18" TFT extenda gun, ground base

                    4 Scott SCBA with 4 spare bottles
                    RIT Pack

                    Waiting on 800' of 5" LDH to arrive
                    Last edited by mitchkrat; 02-16-2007, 07:00 AM. Reason: typo

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mitchkrat View Post
                      What are our options for disposal? Can we sell the truck as is to someone other than a fire department or do we have to sell the truck only as scrap?
                      ebay is your friend.

                      Seller it as a former fire service tanker. If it is currently registered, say so. If not, make no gaurantees that it can be registered. Make sure it is listed as out-of-service/currently-unfit-for-fire-service-use/sold "as is".
                      "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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                      • #12
                        Advertise that it cannot be used for " Fire Service" and then have buyer sign an affidavit stating that they are buying it with full knowledge that the vehicle cannot/ will not be used as a fire department vehicle. That should cover you in terms of satisfying the grant folks at DHS and then keep the document in your grant paperwork.
                        Kurt Bradley
                        Fire/EMS/EMA Grant Consultant
                        " Never Trade Skill for Luck"

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                        • #13
                          2005 had no stipulations as to what you could and couldn't do with vehicles you were replacing. Of course if it's not safe for you to use, not finding how it's safe for anyone else, but if you sold it to another department for $1 (removes liability issues of donations) then it's on them to baffle the tank and handle the other issues that may need addressing.

                          The purpose of ensuring that people removed unsafe trucks was because everyone claimed they were driving death traps, then when they came for the site audit, there's the death trap still running calls.

                          Kurt, 2nd week in March I'm making a pit stop at the hallowed grounds in TN on my way from AL workshops to MO workshop. Oh happy days. Hopefully I don't get "stuck" there. Almost afraid of what might follow me home from Jack's place. Such things cost money....
                          Brian P. Vickers
                          www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                          Emergency Services Consulting
                          Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                          Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                          • #14
                            BC are you going to the fire school or just passing through a certain dry county to replenish the supply?

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                            • #15
                              As much as I'd like to take some classes it will just be a social call to an old friend's place this time.
                              Brian P. Vickers
                              www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                              Emergency Services Consulting
                              Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                              Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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