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  • #31
    Limeforever: Because we were fortunate to find a leftover chassis that the dealer had been sitting on for three years he was willing to take any offer to move it out of his inventory.We paid just over half of the original sticker for it . This gave us a tremendous ability to sit down and design our dream truck .
    It has an eight bottle 6000 psi bank with a three bottle frag/fill station, the cascade system was our winning 03 AFG app. the compressor is at the station so we went with the 8 bottle bank to give us the ability to fill lots of bottles whether they are 2216 or 4500's.We can also fill SCUBA bottle for times when we are supporting the dive team in offshore rescue /recovery calls.
    There is an eight foot cab at the front of the body with 4 rear facing SCBA seats so when we go mutual aid we can supply a full crew + officer packed and ready to go. All of our EMT's have been trained to operate the fill station and to provide proper medical evaluation and rehab. we managed to find room for a few folding camp chairs in an upper compartment so when a FF comes out of the fire ground he gets a quick evaluation and water while his bottle is changed . The command compartment also has full EMS supplies and an ALS bag /defib etc for the treatment of an injured or sick FF. Our SOG's allow the EMT's to pull the FF off the line with the full support of the chief and safety officer. We also have several backboards a floating stokes , & a little giant ladder on shelves above the bottle bank.
    !5 KW harrison hydraulic genset is mounted up on the rear roof of the body behind a 20' pneumatic 4 head light tower. Rear of the truck has all the car crash toolsand equipment and a 200' cord real allowing us to pull power to the scene and dismountable tripod lights, plus the Kinman combi tool on a 100' reel on a slide out tray. They cut the rear frame behind the suspension and lowered it to make the roll out tray with jaws at thigh level instead of chest height.
    Down the left side is a compartment with two portable gas powered pumps, an electric cellar pump, a huge PP ventilation fan, and storage above for all our rope rescue and safety lines along with a life-ring . mid comp has the bottle bank horizontal over the rear axle shifted to driver side to offset the weight of the frag chamber on pass side. front left has slide out tool board and the survival suit hang up closet with a ventilator to prevent the suits from getting moldy when put away wet. Front bumper compartment holds a 9000lb warn quick mount winch with receivers on all 4 sides of truck for mounting.
    All of the above and it was about $200,000 less than quotes from the big boys to build a similar truck. Yankee frugality at it's best

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    • #32
      Derrick, what do mean if I could figure out the computer scoring?

      Have to remember career nerd here, schooled in years of analyzing business systems to figure out what they do under the hood. Haven't done a full set of analysis for 2006 but figured out quite a few of the magic lines in the sand. Not exact since the game changes for next year since all new apps are going in, but there are several obvious lines of demarcation in various statistics that determine Peer or No Peer. Helps to guide, more importantly, lay out the cons to the project.
      Brian P. Vickers
      www.vickersconsultingservices.com
      Emergency Services Consulting
      Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
      Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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      • #33
        BC79er Now you know why it's fun?
        about as much fun as a visit to the proctologist :-]

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        • #34
          NFPA 1906 - anybody have electronic copy????

          Is there a place on the web to view or download this standard as a .pdf? Just need some basics on what is required.

          If you have it, please email me
          [email protected]

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          • #35
            You can view (only) an electronic version of NFPA 1906 at:

            http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/Ab...ookie%5Ftest=1

            At bottom of page click on "Preview this document"
            Next page click "I agree"
            Next page click "OPen NFPA 1906"

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            • #36
              The basics should be somewhere in the forums if you do a search on NFPA 1906 in the Apparatus forum.

              Also if you search fireengineering.com for it there's something over there too.

              islandfire, sometimes it feels like we've been to a lobotomy performed by a proctologist through the latter's means of access.

              Plenty of psychology in this program though. We'll be going over that tomorrow in MO.
              Brian P. Vickers
              www.vickersconsultingservices.com
              Emergency Services Consulting
              Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
              Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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              • #37
                Originally posted by BC79er View Post
                I wasn't disagreeing with the need by any means, it was a needed thing to do and y'all did it. By this post in a more cost-effective manner than most.

                But that's what the computer can't see when it's looking at 2003 Rescue Truck. Step 1 of any app is figuring out if you can beat Big Blue by knowing what is against you, Step 2 is making sure the Reviewers don't think it was a fluke by knocking them over the head with the answers to all of the questions they didn't even know they were going to ask. Now you know why it's fun?

                BC

                What year is this truck for Fire Grant app? I think the title down at the courthouse would read 2000 (now 2003).

                Chassis 2000 (New or used/w x miles). Someone constructed a rescue body on it in 2003 and place in service in 2004.

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                • #38
                  Didn't catch that, but it is what the title reads. So if it's titled 2000, since that's when the chassis was built, then it's a 2000 model even though it wasn't built as a rescue until 2003. Won't do a lot of wonders for the average fleet age, but better chance as a 2000 than a 2003.
                  Brian P. Vickers
                  www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                  Emergency Services Consulting
                  Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                  Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                  • #39
                    Thanks for all of the input from the Gurus, I have decided to apply for a padded room retrofit for my office under health & well-being. Then they can lock me up when i start blathering about grant apps.

                    Brian sure would to get to one of your seminars but don't see any listed in my part of the country.

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                    • #40
                      Just make the room big enough for the rest of us.

                      Which part are you in? Might have already been there. Or might be coming, I haven't listed the AL ones yet. Only one employee in my self-employed situation and he's kind of a slacker. Of course only one set, so I'll be posting that tonight, the other 1 or 2 I'm waiting on confirmation that we're having the 2nd and 3rd and their locations. Might only be 2 in that neck of the woods. Good thing is the sponsor now sells in TN so any department in TN can come to any of them also for free. Might be a longer drive, but still free is free. Luckily they're working on KY also so I'll be visiting more states next go round. Lots of frequent flier miles trying to cover 40 states. Will by the Mrs a nice sanity trip to somewhere so I get to breath longer.
                      Brian P. Vickers
                      www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                      Emergency Services Consulting
                      Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                      Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                      • #41
                        Well my office is only 6'X8' , but we can throw out the file cabinets to make more room. Would this qualify as minor station modifications ? ?

                        I'm on an island in the the midcoast area of maine. 5 hours drive north of boston & 45 minutes north of LL Bean.

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                        • #42
                          Somewhere up near my cousin, she lives up there. Can't remember exactly.

                          Probably won't be hitting the NE part of the country until the fall, might attempt something in NH or eastern MA. Stay tuned.
                          Brian P. Vickers
                          www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                          Emergency Services Consulting
                          Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                          Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                          • #43
                            would a truck with a pump larger than 500gpm be considered a quick attack. We are looking at a 1000 gpm so it could also be used for drafting

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                            • #44
                              It can be, if you're making an NFPA 1906 truck instead of 1901. I know a few people that put 1000gpm pumps on F550 type chassis for that reason.
                              Brian P. Vickers
                              www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                              Emergency Services Consulting
                              Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                              Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                              • #45
                                If anyone has a narrative for a brush truck, please send it to [email protected].

                                Does FEMA have a $$$$ limit on brush trucks?

                                Thanks - and good luck to everyone. Let the madness begin!

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