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  • What is considered a "Brush/Attack"

    What would be considered a brush/attack truck on the Truck application?

    Would this truck fall under 1901 or 1906?

    If we apply for one it would be used for Auto accident response, First Responder, service and brus fires.

    We, like a great deal of other departments, currently have a 1977 FEPP 3/4ton dodge that we would like to replace.

    Thanks

  • #2
    For the brush truck that we were awarded in '05 it addressed NFPA 1906.

    A key factor is showing that the vehicle will be multi-functional (which appears what you are doing) rather than 1 dimensional. Our brush truck would be used for brush fires about 8 months out of the year. It was shown that it would be used also to tow any of 5 trailers, during the winter months for EMS calls during storm coverage, carry ice water rescue equipment etc.

    If you would like a copy of the narrative, send me an email (profile).

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    • #3
      That would be great!

      [email protected]

      The sole job of this truck would not be limited to brush fires.
      We would run more of anyother type call than brush fires.

      Thanks

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      • #4
        One bugle,
        Me too, me too please send me a copy of your narrative.
        Thanks so much.
        Glenn
        [email protected]

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        • #5
          Guys,

          Narratives have been emailed.

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          • #6
            Bugle, me too, brush narrative

            [email protected]

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            • #7
              Brush/Quick attack goes under 1906, and you can load it up as much as possible. So you can make a quick attack with rescue style bodies and all of those other goodies.
              Brian P. Vickers
              www.vickersconsultingservices.com
              Emergency Services Consulting
              Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
              Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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              • #8
                OK all you GURUS out there !
                How about if we were to purchase a new F-550 chassis with department funds, and apply for a flatbed body with compartments and a slide in Odin CAFS skid unit with a 350 gal tank. Would this be under equipment as it doesn't involve a "truck"?
                Also what about airpacks and hose & nozzles and accessory fittings to meet the requirements of 1906?
                We are trying to replace a 1982 mini 250/250 4 wheel drive brush /quick attack truck that has seen better days.
                We wrote what we thought was a winning app for AFG and DJ'd in the first round in 06.

                this is still our most pressing need to provide access to interface areas that are difficult to get into with our class A pumper. Long drives through the woods on semi improved roads.
                Also is anyone running a F-550 on super singles instead of duals?
                Appreciate any thoughts you might have!

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                • #9
                  It would be under equipment, but the question would be where is the equipment from the one you're replacing going? Odds are you'd need more than what you have, but this is where you have to distinguish between need and want. And at what point your request matching amount goes above the $ amounts of the stuff being requested.
                  Brian P. Vickers
                  www.vickersconsultingservices.com
                  Emergency Services Consulting
                  Westlake VFD - Houston, TX
                  Proud Member IACOJ - Redneck Division

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                  • #10
                    Brush truck narrative

                    onebugle,

                    Can you send me a copy of that narrative please. Our military Dodge has almost rusted out from around the "bailing wire" holding it together.

                    [email protected]

                    Thank you

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                    • #11
                      Thanks Brian: the truck to be replaced is a 1982 gas powered 454 Chevy 4 whl drive 1 ton mini that has a leaky steel tank and the pump needs a complete refurb /rebuild to make it work properly to meet pump certification. We now have to drive a 40 mile round trip to the nearest gas station which takes almost a 1/4 tank & the chassis is at the point of needing major rework to brakes & suspension components just to get a 3-5 year additional life span. We received a quote of almost 50 k to do all the work & realized that spending that much money to lengthen it's life was not a proper use of our limited funds. All the rest of our trucks & ambulance are diesel for which we have a supply tank at the station
                      The truck has two 1985 MSA airpacks with steel bottles and spares that are no longer in serviceable [no longer able to get parts] condition. We would also be purchasing new liteweight vs. hard rubber suction hoses and would want to switch from 1 3/4 fire hose to 1" CAFS line. Equipment such as indian tanks and rakes /shovels would be swapped over from the old truck . This new truck would be used in a brush /wildland interface primary role but also as a first in unit to access some of the large weekend homes that are being built down long narrow drive ways in the woods. CAFS because we have to haul every gallon of water in with us plus could be used for exposure protection to adjacent structures.

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                      • #12
                        other options??

                        Does your State Forestry Service provide any funding for this type of project? I know that the Texas Forest Service will provide the funding for trucks. For a small brush truck, they will give up to $59,000 for CAFS and a large brush truck will bring in $113,000 in grant funds. It is almost a give me grant if you have all of the right requirements. May be another source to look into.

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                        • #13
                          The only programs the state forestry office has are doling out 70's vintage deuce and a halfs. We got rid of one of them 15 years ago as unsuitable for our needs. They're not very good in our new england winters. They also supply parts to repair our indian tanks.

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                          • #14
                            Narrative

                            islandfire03,

                            Expand on those points and you have a good start to your narrative.

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                            • #15
                              narrative

                              can I get a copy, thanks [email protected]

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