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  • #16
    Thank you, Brian. Your insight and experiences are always appreciated and welcomed!

    As they say, there's always next year!

    Scott

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    • #17
      Hoping the America First sentiment cuts foreign aid and inflates AFG's award money again. Would be nice to be back above $500mil, hope the national orgs and CFSI are lobbying for that.
      Brian P. Vickers
      CEO - Vickers Consulting Services, Inc
      FH.com/Firehouse Mag Contributor
      www.helpmewithgrants.com
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      • #18
        Not many happy campers today and of course it hits while I am travelling as usual. As bc79er said above and I reiterate here, sometimes there is not a damn thing wrong with the application and submitting it after updating stats for the next year if it is and remains a high priority to AFG, is always the right solution. Axe169 I have had a vehicle application funded and an Ops application for the same depart. rejected with a letter stating "financial need" was weak yet the two sections were word-for-word identical. Humans are to blame just as Brian stated. I never say die to a project unless there are 2 back-to-back turndowns. Don't feel bad this was probably one of my worst years in a decade of doing these; many rejections don't make any sense at all this year.

        No time for "feeling sorry" or complaining here. Just buckle down, spruce it up, leverage more if you can and do it all over again.
        Kurt Bradley
        Fire/EMS/EMA Grant Consultant
        " Never Trade Skill for Luck"

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        • #19
          Kurt,

          You and Brian are the inspiration that keeps the amateurs going. Because of this forum and the support of those around me, I never count myself out. I did think this one was a no-brainer and in the bucket; sure seemed iron-clad in the business case. A whole lot of us here in SWPA got the DJ's though when we were usually the ones who received them. I'm sharpening the pencil right now to make sure that FY2017 doesn't yield the same outcome.

          Scott

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          • #20
            Got my FV (Tender) DJ.. looks like we didn't get past computer scoring... my SAFER DJ seems to imply it got to peer review... one Micro-Ops application with no DJ, not 1199 update.. probably just in the DJ cue...

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            • #21
              Originally posted by BC79er View Post
              All letters are computer generated, based on the fact that I'm a nerd and former software guy I made the assumption many moons ago that the code that builds the letters by piecing in sentences probably compares the application scores for each section and inserts sentences that fit. So with yours it would be that the financial need scored below the average of those funded. It could have been below the average by 0.5 or you could have scored a 0 overall, the letter reads the same way so that's no big help other than it was that section that ended up lowest after computer scoring and peer scores were combined.

              Doesn't mean it was anything wrong at all either, it's in the eye of the reviewer which as humans makes us subjective. Sometimes they miss stuff. When I was at FDIC a buddy that writes was checking on some of his and wanted to know about one of his really hard-up departments, very rural, operate on about $15k a year. Score was tanked and Peer comment was something like project description of need wasn?t clear, would like to have seen age of current equipment. First sentence of the narrative says ?we?re seeking assistance in replacing our 18 year old SCBA?. Can?t get more clear than that and it still didn?t fund. Humans, strangest animal on the planet....
              Brian - is there a way to get more detailed information on our rejection?

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              • #22
                There was an email address or something I remember last year that you could send a request for more info, but never heard that anyone got anything deeper than what the letter had in it. Most times all I ever heard when asking was no one could see a reason why it didn't fund. It's the human factor, I've had narratives get kicked to the curb one year saying multiple sections deficient and then the next year after only changing call stats it's a 1st round award. Only difference was the peer team reading and scoring.
                Brian P. Vickers
                CEO - Vickers Consulting Services, Inc
                FH.com/Firehouse Mag Contributor
                www.helpmewithgrants.com
                www.facebook.com/vcsinc

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                • #23
                  The example Brian gave is very true. A lot of it depends on whos desk it lands on. Talk to a Peer reviewer for Safer Grants a few years back and told him I had a client put in for R&R. He stopped me and stated, Why should I give you money for something you already have?(Referring to keeping Volunteers) So me, in my infinite wisdom told him that is part of R&R RETENTION. He kinda laughed a little and said, Not funded if I read it. To reiterate, don't mean you did a bad job in writing grant, A lot of it depends on whos desk it lands on. Jeff
                  I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

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                  • #24
                    District 1 AFG Workshop has been posted. No other District has been posted. Jeff
                    I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

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                    • #25
                      Those dates are from September so pretty sure it's all still being worked out.
                      Brian P. Vickers
                      CEO - Vickers Consulting Services, Inc
                      FH.com/Firehouse Mag Contributor
                      www.helpmewithgrants.com
                      www.facebook.com/vcsinc

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