Looking For Succesful Ambulance Grant

[TexasEng422Tanker]

Heard,
that ambulance will be the first priority this year to fire department. Does anyone have a narrative for and ambulance?

or life-pak 15?

i have a few narrative that where funded.

[EMT6126]

Ive got a narritive that i wrote for monitors that went in first round last year. whats your email and ill send it to you

[WJVaughn]

Heard,
that ambulance will be the first priority this year to fire department. Does anyone have a narrative for and ambulance?

or life-pak 15?

i have a few narrative that where funded.

Priority for which level? rural, surburban or urban?

[onebugle]

Priority for which level? rural, surburban or urban?

All 3.

[pgoldsmith]

Of course!

All 3.

Naturally, they make ambulances a priority right after we order one.

EMT6126, may I please have a copy of your narrative for the LP15? I think I'm getting my DJ next week. I can trade narratives for exhaust removal systems, RIT equipment or thermal imagers. E-mail is [email protected]

Thanks!

Phil Goldsmith
Pikesville VFC
Pikesville, MD

[SLY4420]

Naturally, they make ambulances a priority right after we order one.

So if you were able to order one, why would you need a grant?

Don't think your fleet would even get you to peer. New rescue looks nice

[EMT6126]

i sent it to you. hope it helps

[BC79er]

Buses are up to Priority 1, don't think they took the top spot away from pumper. Point was to get them up to P1 so those that are in need at least had a chance to have the argument read. Of course IMHO, if you need a box more than a pumper, means you could afford the $400k buggy and not the $100k?

[WJVaughn]

i guess the ambulance builders raised enough heck to get on the main line to get a bigger piece of the pie.

[pgoldsmith]

So if you were able to order one, why would you need a grant?

Don't think your fleet would even get you to peer. New rescue looks nice

We HAD to order one. We've had the engine and tranny rebuilt and it's STILL leaking oil. We're in a 20 year old county reserve unit as much as we're in our own unit. It's 8 years old, runs 1800 calls/year and has 120,000 miles on it. It's a money pit and drives our engineer nuts. And when it runs, it adds about $150k/year to the bottom line.

Sly, I appreciate your research efforts. I agree that our fleet age would be a huge issue and probably earn us a computer DJ. You oughta see the loan payments on that nice new rescue, though. And we'll be in another loan for the ambo. We're carrying debt on every major piece in the house and have 23 more years on the mortgage for the addition in 2003. In the unlikely event that I would make it past the computer, I don't think I would have much trouble selling it to a peer reviewer.

Phil

[TexasEng422Tanker]

thanks my email is [email protected]

[ktb9780]

i guess the ambulance builders raised enough heck to get on the main line to get a bigger piece of the pie.

I think the justification is more along the lines of it being a "revenue vehicle" to offset some lost tax base revenue.

[neiowa]

If you're netting $150k/yr running an ambulance maybe spend the ambulance income on a new ambulance? I'm pretty sure using operating funds to replace wornout capital equipment is part of running a business.

[pgoldsmith]

If you're netting $150k/yr running an ambulance maybe spend the ambulance income on a new ambulance? I'm pretty sure using operating funds to replace wornout capital equipment is part of running a business.

NE, I mis-spoke. That's gross revenue. We end up about $15K in the hole running the ambo by the time it's all said and done. It's still the busiest piece in the house by far. Runs as much as the engine, tower and rescue combined.

At any rate, it's a moot point. We already ordered it and we should see it in the fall.

Phil G.

[BC79er]

That's about par for the course, 80% of fire department runs are EMS nationally. What I find ironic is that the same people (feds) that say EMS should be self-sufficient are the same entity that have the worst pay record of all (MediCare/Medicaid).

Now still a leg up on the fire side of operations where fire can't bill for anything, but that's why when times are tough we should aim to minimize costs. A good idea at all times, but more important when things are going against spending more money and tax income isn't likely to increase any time soon.