2010 safer

[davepa]

SAFER 1199As seem to post over the weekends...will there be more this weekend???

[davepa]

Got an 1199A for an R&R this morning.

Checked last Friday - nothing
Checked last night at 9pm - found one as well.

[SLY4420]

Got an 1199A for an R&R this morning.

[BC79er]

Pretty much.

[wtfd2940]

Does anyone know what happens to leftover funding for SAFER hiring grants. I know there is a process for leftover funds on the operations side but have never heard anything about SAFER. Does the money just go back?

[peak85]

1199A dropped my way for R&R, but no 10Q’s yet. Keeping my fingers crossed

[islandfire03]

Has anyone been awarded safer for new hiring? The only thing I have seen is some R&R and welfare for the cities?
Mark

I know of one with the 1199 but no further action.

[ktb9780]

Has anyone been awarded safer for new hiring? The only thing I have seen is some R&R and welfare for the cities?
Mark

I have 2 with questions and 1199a posted but they have not been awarded yet Mark.

[mwtetreault]

Any new Hiring

Has anyone been awarded safer for new hiring? The only thing I have seen is some R&R and welfare for the cities?
Mark

[ktb9780]

Maybe we should post all the one's that vote no and start making phone call and express our feelings

Uh, oh I feel a rant coming on......too late! We witnessed the effects of voter apathy several years ago when the fire service failed to respond and "get out the vote" and we lost Curt Weldon who was one of AFGs champions.

Since then, the AFG program has been progressively stripped of funding that orginally was appropriated to be $1 billion per year; the legislation just proposed last week was $800 million shy of that mark.

I hope that the First Responder community recognize that they, and their families and friends, represent a collectively very large and vocal voice and they need to kick start this current Congress and politicians into recognizing that without the local First Responder community, lawlessness, crime and chaos will surely soon follow.

The blue lines and red lines need to unite together and speak collectively towards that end. I fear that this country is headed for third world type public safety and for those who have never ventured past our own country's borders, that is a frightening scenario. Why do you think so many third world citizens try to immigrate here? Contrary to what many believe, it is not the money; it is the safety and security that our "freedom" offers but, that safety and security does not come without a price.

This may be heresy on my part but I personally would gladly support a local property tax increase of $100 per year as long as I am assured that it goes to the First Responder community needs.

[chief1120]

February 16, 2011 – Overcoming long odds, fire fighters nationwide scored a significant victory when the U.S. House of Representatives voted 318-113 to reject massive cuts to fire fighter grants.

Under H.R. 1 -- House legislation to continue funding the federal government – the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) grant program would have been completely eliminated, and the Assistance to Firefighters (FIRE Act) grants would have been cut by more than 20 percent.

Recognizing the threat to fire fighter safety, Representative Bill Pascrell (D-NJ) offered an amendment to restore funding for the two programs. The amendment passed February 16 with a large bipartisan majority.

Maybe we should post all the one's that vote no and start making phone call and express our feelings

[ktb9780]

February 16, 2011 – Overcoming long odds, fire fighters nationwide scored a significant victory when the U.S. House of Representatives voted 318-113 to reject massive cuts to fire fighter grants.

Under H.R. 1 -- House legislation to continue funding the federal government – the Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) grant program would have been completely eliminated, and the Assistance to Firefighters (FIRE Act) grants would have been cut by more than 20 percent.

Recognizing the threat to fire fighter safety, Representative Bill Pascrell (D-NJ) offered an amendment to restore funding for the two programs. The amendment passed February 16 with a large bipartisan majority.

[ktb9780]

But you're missing the point Kurt: The three called back to work will have 2 years more seniority when they get laid off after the SAFER funding runs out. That means that maybe some old dog might retire and they get to keep a position during that 2 years.

That was sarcasm if you didn't notice :-}

.....and at some point I have also learned that soon pigs will be able to fly! LOL!

[islandfire03]

I just spoke with a guy who watched as a neighboring department announced its award to rehire 3 FFs that had been laid off. This was during a " publically televised town hall meeting" and they were asking if the town would accept accept the grant award. The town council accepted the award but not without first stating t"on the record" that "when the grant money is gone, we will be firing those hired back again".

Dumb rules, beget dumb responses! This is why grant programs with good intentions, get flushed down the toilet.

But you're missing the point Kurt: The three called back to work will have 2 years more seniority when they get laid off after the SAFER funding runs out. That means that maybe some old dog might retire and they get to keep a position during that 2 years.

That was sarcasm if you didn't notice :-}

[ktb9780]

I see our fearless leader has again proposed more money for SAFER whil cutting AFG. For a democrat he seems a little out of touch with the needs of the fire service.

I just spoke with a guy who watched as a neighboring department announced its award to rehire 3 FFs that had been laid off. This was during a " publically televised town hall meeting" and they were asking if the town would accept accept the grant award. The town council accepted the award but not without first stating t"on the record" that "when the grant money is gone, we will be firing those hired back again".

Dumb rules, beget dumb responses! This is why grant programs with good intentions, get flushed down the toilet.