2010 safer

[davepa]

will open tomorrow and close 9/17.

[ktb9780]

I confirm that, guidance supposed to be out later today. It is also my understanding that a new director of AFG programs has been selected and will be announced very soon. Ready , set, go folks! Anyone from WV I'll see you in person at your state firefighter's convention on Wed and Thursday.

[davepa]

I confirm that, guidance supposed to be out later today. It is also my understanding that a new director of AFG programs has been selected and will be announced very soon. Ready , set, go folks! Anyone from WV I'll see you in person at your state firefighter's convention on Wed and Thursday.

That's also correct. Tom has moved upward and onward...

[wtfd2940]

How can they open SAFER 2010 and not have completed awarding SAFER 2009? I got my questions for hiring over 3 months ago with an 1199a update. We still have not been awarded. What are applicants in my shoes to do?

[ktb9780]

How can they open SAFER 2010 and not have completed awarding SAFER 2009? I got my questions for hiring over 3 months ago with an 1199a update. We still have not been awarded. What are applicants in my shoes to do?

This is a good arguement to call AFG, request to speak to the head honcho and ask that question or refer that question to a legisltive represetative adn have them ask the question.

[ktb9780]

Guidance is posted.

[volfireman034]

Well I guess I'll try again since I got my DJ last week. Still not exactly sure what I did wrong but I'll look it over.

[onebugle]

Read the PG carefully as there are a number of changes this year compared to 2009. The Hiring section has 4 priorities within that catergory with Hiring the lowest priority. Probably the most significant change is with the narrative setup for both hiring & R&R.

[mwtetreault]

Safer

How is it that a program origionally designed to add firefighters is now evolved to the point where hiring new firefighters is the 4th priority?
Mark

[LVFD301]

Read the PG carefully as there are a number of changes this year compared to 2009. The Hiring section has 4 priorities within that catergory with Hiring the lowest priority. Probably the most significant change is with the narrative setup for both hiring & R&R.

I see a REALLY big change. In addition to the purchase of up to 4 sets of turnouts for training, it allows you to outfit your new recruits in R&R with turnouts after they have completed FF1 and the NFPA physical!

This is really a good thing!

[LVFD301]

What is the difference between part time and paid a stipend?

[PaladinKnight]

The level of Burden Perhaps; workers comp, withholding, unemployment, etc...

[onebugle]

What is the difference between part time and paid a stipend?

From the PG:

14. Paid-on-Call: Firefighters who receive a payment or stipend only when involved in an incident or mandatory operational activity. A department
whose membership is comprised of Paid-on-Call firefighters is considered a “combination fire department – mostly volunteer” for the purposes of this SAFER program.

15. Part-time Firefighter: A firefighter who works less than 40 hours per week is considered a part-time firefighter. When more than one part-time firefighter shares a position that results in work in excess of 40 hours per week, we consider that shared assignment to be a full-time equivalent (FTE) position that must be accounted for in the staffing information provided in the application.

[LVFD301]

That makes sense, but where is FEMA going to draw that line. In Missouri volunteer departments are required to have workmens comp - even though the pay is 0. It pays your medical bills and 35 or 40 bucks a week.

If a department pays minimum wage, does it on a 1099 so no deductions (as you would pay a contractor), provides workmens comp, and does that pay on an hourly basis instead of per run, would FEMA consider them volunteer or paid?

[onebugle]

That makes sense, but where is FEMA going to draw that line. In Missouri volunteer departments are required to have workmens comp - even though the pay is 0. It pays your medical bills and 35 or 40 bucks a week.

If a department pays minimum wage, does it on a 1099 so no deductions (as you would pay a contractor), provides workmens comp, and does that pay on an hourly basis instead of per run, would FEMA consider them volunteer or paid?

From the PG:

Volunteer Fire Department: An agency or organization in which no member receives financial compensation (in the form of salary or wages) for their services other than life and health insurance, workers’ compensation insurance and/or stipend per call. We consider a department to be “mostly volunteer” if more than 50 percent of its membership is made up of personnel who do not receive financial compensation for their services.

The Missouri departments would still be volunteer based on the workman's comp.

The other case would be considered paid as the hourly rate would be considered salary.