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  • tazman7
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    Originally posted by lauraboczek View Post
    To quote some movie I can't remember the name of... "Ok, boys, calm down....everybody's got a big jimmy..."
    Landscaping, firefighting, selling insurance, we all work hard...have a little respect...jeez...
    Selling insurance...hahaha

    im talking about working not an office job.

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  • lauraboczek
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    To quote some movie I can't remember the name of... "Ok, boys, calm down....everybody's got a big jimmy..."
    Landscaping, firefighting, selling insurance, we all work hard...have a little respect...jeez...

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  • Sparky625
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    Hey, the real world isn't always "easy"... I'm just giving you a little advice from the inside.

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  • tazman7
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    Originally posted by Sparky625 View Post
    Now you gotta actually sit your precious little keister down and hear the music, pal. The firefighters world is a dangerous place. Don't get all bent out of shape thinking it's gonna be easy, and if you're trying to find your way out of the pan, ya just get burned by the fire. No pun intended. My suggestion, think about the tough work ya got ahead of ya... Be a man and quit yer griping, you'll be glad you did. Best luck!
    Sorry to bust your bubble but this thread is old and your bringing **** back from a long time ago. I dont care what you think, I never expected anything to be easy and I have already been through Elgins academy. I just posted this to see which academys are good and im glad that I went to Elgin, it as a good academy. You think firefighting is hard? Come work with me for a day doing landscaping and you will learn how to bust ***.

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  • Sparky625
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    Now you gotta actually sit your precious little keister down and hear the music, pal. The firefighters world is a dangerous place. Don't get all bent out of shape thinking it's gonna be easy, and if you're trying to find your way out of the pan, ya just get burned by the fire. No pun intended. My suggestion, think about the tough work ya got ahead of ya... Be a man and quit yer griping, you'll be glad you did. Best luck!

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  • The1andOnly
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    I graduated from Southern Kane. It was a fairly decent academy. As with anything, there is always something bigger and better. Overall I'd rate them a 7/10.

    It was nice getting a variety of instructors. We pulled from knowledge of firefighters, lieu's, captains, Dep. Chief's, etc.

    I thought that was the coolest part of the academy. The academy isn't there to have you do a ton of burns. It's your building foundation. You have to learn to crawl before you walk and run.

    And I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but training smoke is NO WHERE close to real smoke. You don't need smoke to train. Simply putting your nomax over your scba simulates just as well.


    Mikey: btw...I don't think you were too hard on him at all.

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  • k3twpfire
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    BTW, its southernkane.org ... not .com

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  • TRUCK61
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    [FONT=k"]STAY AWAY FROM SOUTHERN KANE[/FONT] AND YES I KNOW I'M YELLING. That academy is not worth going to and I encourage everyone to boycott them. STORY one of my close friends went there for the firefighter 3 program and because it turned out that they cut corners and did not do all the required practicals, but handed out certificates of completion stating that all objectives where met and they even signed a practical answer key to give to my friend when he requested more documentation along with signing the attestation sheet.(which he found out in a discaplinary interview with his fire chief) who in turn filed charges against him and attempted to have him fired along with slandering him with such accusations as fraud and forgery the academy never admitted any wrong doings on this issue until the OSFM failed them in their audit of their class. As of today my friend is still in debt to the tune of about 6 grand for lawyers so he could keep his job, has a discaplinary file about 12 inches thick from this incident and is still trying to clear his name through out the state because of the damage done by his chief. So if you want to not get trained properly and throw money away to an academy that should not even be operating right now because they did commit FRAUD then go to Southern Kane. BTW Elgin, Arlington, Champagin and McHenry County College have very good programs and you will get trained properly.

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  • FCDave24
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    As a graduate of Elgin's academy, I can say that is a good academy. The instructors are rigid enough to get things done and laid back enough to be human. You have heard correctly, Elgin does not burn much. Live burns are scheduled for the final week of class. Until then, smoke machines do all of the work.

    I have many buddies go through Oak Lawn's academy, and they loved it. PT is done daily and they burn a lot. However, if you're close to Elgin, Oak Lawn will be quite a commute.

    I have also heard guys talk about Arlington Heights' academy. Mostly good things, very few negative comments.

    Southern Kane is a newer academy with brand-new burn facilities. Unlike many academies, their instructors are from all over the Fox Valley: Aurora, Batavia, Gevena, North Aurora, etc. I'm pretty sure they have a part-time academy, too. This will allow you to continue to work while going to school.
    www.southernkane.com

    If you have the time and means to go through an academy, I highly recommend it. It's a great experience.

    Good luck making a decision.

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  • tazman7
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    Originally posted by capt4704 View Post
    The paramagic comment was a little harsh cause we all were emt's once, and I NEVER FORGET THAT.
    I meant to write paramagic students...they were across the hall from us at the same time we had class. They just all seemed really cocky like they knew everything... Thats the only reason I said that, I have nothing against anybody in this field, only the cocky ones.

    Maybe I will go to the Elgin Fire Academy then. Sounds like a fun time.

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  • MIKEYLIKESIT
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    Originally posted by efd824 View Post
    Mikey is trying to give you advice, he is just one of those mean old medics aren't ya buddy.....hard ***
    Only when I am sober Brother

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  • efd824
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    Champaign is a very good academy but probably a bit far for you from Chitown area. They have some very good burns and many buildings in which to do so. While i agree with you on some medics that are a much larger in there heads than the skills in there hands, as a medic myself i have found alot of basics that have come out of class and believe because they read it in a book that is how it is suppose to be done. Now you will apply that know how to real world situations, getting someone out of a car @ O'dark thirty in a snow storm is some thing learned not read. Mikey is trying to give you advice, he is just one of those mean old medics aren't ya buddy.....hard ***

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  • k3twpfire
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    . . . Incoming !! . . . :d

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  • npfd801
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    I went through Elgin's academy, hell my name should be on one of the plaques on the wall because I managed to do well. Personally, a ton of live burns or not - I loved it. When I went through they had a HUGE smoke setup in one of the buildings on the grounds at the mental hospital, and I found that to be the most beneficial part of the entire thing. Large area searches, lots of places to get lost in - and you can't memorize that place like you can a burn tower after a few times in. I still think the search skills that (I believe) I have came from drills in that building, not in the burn tower.

    We also did live burns in Carol Stream, but I don't think that tower exists anymore, at least not for burns. So what they offer now could be different than what they did then, it has been about five years. I've ran into some of their academy staff about six months ago who also volunteer in the smaller town they live in, and I know that the academy classes have come out to the "country" to burn in real homes. In my opinion, that's worth more than any tower burn...

    Here's my take. I sure like it when I get that smoked smell and the helmet gets a little seasoned by burn tower days. I like feeling the heat once in a while of a real fire in training. HOWEVER - the core knowledge that they beat into us at Elgin is what sticks with me every day, and I think is worth far more than lots of burn room time.

    Rockford's academy is more rigid (drill style, military) in nature, and since they have their own burn tower - they may smoke up evolutions more. However (and we use their tower once in a while, and let me tell you, since we don't have one - theirs is a hell of a lot better than the tower we don't have) - their tower is pretty limited for evolutions that can be done inside. I have a good friend that did Arlington Heights, I'll ask if he can tell me how many live fire evolutions they had. The sad truth is that they want to get you through all the practical evolutions that the state demands in the given hours, and that doesn't leave a lot of time for lots of live burn evolutions...

    There's others on the Illinois forum who did Elgin, and I think they'll agree you won't be unhappy.

    BTW - don't make a truckie joke to the ladders instructor. It will haunt you the rest of the academy... I won't begin to explain it, but we've all done something stupid at least once.
    Last edited by npfd801; 01-15-2007, 03:19 AM.

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  • capt4704
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    Wow

    Wow, is this interesting. First off we all have advice for the new guys. Back to the subject of academies.
    Ask around from former alumni, they can tell you first hand.
    Location and traveling is huge. You dont want to travel long distances after a hard day of training. It will take a toll on you.
    You will get out of it what you put into it. Bust your a**, keep your nose in the books, and be the best.
    Dont take this the wrong way, but when you start you do have to mind your p's & q's. An old saying for newbies, "you have 2 eyes, 2 ears, and 1 mouth, there is a reason for this".
    The paramagic comment was a little harsh cause we all were emt's once, and I NEVER FORGET THAT.
    Good luck, try to find a mentor on your department and listen to him/her.

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