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    I want to ask for some input from the members here, maybe even some SOPs/SOGs. We have a rather new "policy" that unless your FF2 or in FF2 class, you can't wear a air pack, you can't run a roof or rotary saw, and you can't use extrication tools. We've mandated that you have to be FF2 at a minimum to do those things at a Fire or Accident, but this new policy is saying you can't do these things in training now either. We can't seem to get a straight answer from our Chief, he alludes to insurance restrictions and nfpa standards but stop short of saying "This is why we are doing it".

    So some of us are wondering, is

    #1 this a new standard that either we hadn't heard before or maybe its completely new?

    #2 What policies, procedures, guidelines etc do you have for non FF2, 18 y/o or older firefighters as far as hands on training with saws, SCBAs, hand tools, Extrication equipment etc

    Thanks in advance

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    new policy is saying you can't do these things in training now either.

    You automatically are an anointed one once you enter ff2 school and can now touch the golden saw??
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZdEH...e_gdata_player

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      Originally posted by Btownguy View Post
      I want to ask for some input from the members here, maybe even some SOPs/SOGs. We have a rather new "policy" that unless your FF2 or in FF2 class, you can't wear a air pack, you can't run a roof or rotary saw, and you can't use extrication tools. We've mandated that you have to be FF2 at a minimum to do those things at a Fire or Accident, but this new policy is saying you can't do these things in training now either. We can't seem to get a straight answer from our Chief, he alludes to insurance restrictions and nfpa standards but stop short of saying "This is why we are doing it".

      So some of us are wondering, is

      #1 this a new standard that either we hadn't heard before or maybe its completely new?

      #2 What policies, procedures, guidelines etc do you have for non FF2, 18 y/o or older firefighters as far as hands on training with saws, SCBAs, hand tools, Extrication equipment etc

      Thanks in advance
      I'm not sure what your FF2 training standards are. Here, we require completion of FF1 in order to get cut loose and wear SCBA at an incident. We will allow use of the small power tools when we feel comfortable that you know how to use them (brush fires, tree down calls etc).

      What confuses me about your post is the training portion. How are you supposed to learn to use the SCBA if you are not allowed to wear them or use them during training? We obviously allow use of SCBA for FF1 class. We will also work with the students at the station and allow them to wear SCBA during drills, depending on the nature of the drill.

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