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    Does anyone know of a department that offers a self-study firefighter III program?
    We can not find anyone locally who is willing to teach the classes.

  • #2
    How many people do you need. We have some in Mt. Vernon that would like FFIII. Where are you located, and would you be willing to travel? We have a few instructors that might be able to help.

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    • #3
      We are currently doing a class in Mt. Carmel (MOD B) small class, I don't think you are all that far away. Flora area right?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by ncfpd1 View Post
        Does anyone know of a department that offers a self-study firefighter III program?
        We can not find anyone locally who is willing to teach the classes.
        I didn't think FF III even existed anymore. The NFPA standard dropped it quite a while back. Is this a hown grown program?
        "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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        • #5
          Originally posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
          I didn't think FF III even existed anymore. The NFPA standard dropped it quite a while back. Is this a hown grown program?
          IL. recognizes FF III

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          • #6
            Originally posted by AFPD34 View Post
            IL. recognizes FF III
            What do they base it on?
            "Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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            • #7
              Originally posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
              What do they base it on?
              NFPA 1001-1992

              http://www.sfm.illinois.gov/documents/newff3.pdf

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              • #8
                Originally posted by AFPD34 View Post
                NFPA 1001-1992
                1992?!?!

                Being a standard revision or two behind is one thing but, Jeebus H. Meriweather, the current standard is 1001-2008!
                Last edited by DeputyMarshal; 07-20-2010, 03:36 PM.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DeputyMarshal View Post
                  Jeebus H. Meriweather
                  Loved that one Deputy!

                  Anyway, the OSFM has revised the certification curriculum or at least been revising for the last 5 years or more. When it will take effect though, I don't know. I believe it went out for public comment last year but haven't heard anything since. Eventually FFII and FFIII will be replaced by Basic FF and Advanced FF which is commensurate with current NFPA standards. Word was, anyone with FFII or FFIII will need to acquire the additional courses of Basic/Advanced FF within 5 years or lose state certification. Here's some of the earlier discussed changes:

                  BASIC
                  1. Member of an IL fire department.
                  2. Completion of all Basic Firefighter cognitive objectives (classroom)
                  3. Completion of all Basic Firefighter psychomotor objectives (practicals)
                  4. Completion of a new "Module D," which will consist of the following:

                  . 4a. Certification at the level of Hazardous Materials Awareness
                  . 4b. Certification at the level of Technical Rescue Awareness
                  . 4c. Completion of the classroom portion of Fire Service Vehicle Operator
                  . 4d. Completion of IS-100 and IS-700 (ICS and NIMS)
                  . 4e. Completion of basic CPR, and a basic first-aid course

                  ADVANCED
                  1. Certification as a Basic Firefighter for 3 years.
                  2. Completion of all Advanced Firefighter cognitive objectives
                  3. Completion of all Advanced Firefighter psychomotor objectives
                  4. Completion of "Module D," which will be:

                  . 4a. Certification at the level of Haz Mat Operations
                  . 4b. Certification at the level of Vehicle Machinery Operations
                  . 4c. Certification at the level of Fire Service Vehicle Operator
                  . 4d. Certification at the level of Fire Apparatus Engineer
                  . 4e. Technical Rescue Team Support Training


                  I know some classes were taught at the new curriculum levels 2 or more years ago but so far I haven't heard word when, and if, it will take effect.
                  SFPD Member MABAS Division 47
                  Told my wife I'm at work. Told my boss I'm sick. I'm really at the fire station.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by kprsn1 View Post
                    Loved that one Deputy!

                    Anyway, the OSFM has revised the certification curriculum or at least been revising for the last 5 years or more. When it will take effect though, I don't know. I believe it went out for public comment last year but haven't heard anything since. Eventually FFII and FFIII will be replaced by Basic FF and Advanced FF which is commensurate with current NFPA standards. Word was, anyone with FFII or FFIII will need to acquire the additional courses of Basic/Advanced FF within 5 years or lose state certification. Here's some of the earlier discussed changes:

                    BASIC
                    1. Member of an IL fire department.
                    2. Completion of all Basic Firefighter cognitive objectives (classroom)
                    3. Completion of all Basic Firefighter psychomotor objectives (practicals)
                    4. Completion of a new "Module D," which will consist of the following:

                    . 4a. Certification at the level of Hazardous Materials Awareness
                    . 4b. Certification at the level of Technical Rescue Awareness
                    . 4c. Completion of the classroom portion of Fire Service Vehicle Operator
                    . 4d. Completion of IS-100 and IS-700 (ICS and NIMS)
                    . 4e. Completion of basic CPR, and a basic first-aid course

                    ADVANCED
                    1. Certification as a Basic Firefighter for 3 years.
                    2. Completion of all Advanced Firefighter cognitive objectives
                    3. Completion of all Advanced Firefighter psychomotor objectives
                    4. Completion of "Module D," which will be:

                    . 4a. Certification at the level of Haz Mat Operations
                    . 4b. Certification at the level of Vehicle Machinery Operations
                    . 4c. Certification at the level of Fire Service Vehicle Operator
                    . 4d. Certification at the level of Fire Apparatus Engineer
                    . 4e. Technical Rescue Team Support Training


                    I know some classes were taught at the new curriculum levels 2 or more years ago but so far I haven't heard word when, and if, it will take effect.

                    From what I've heard HAZMAT Opps, VMO & FSVO. TRT Support Training & FAE as part of Advanced??? Thats a new one for me and I asked the state directly. If that was to come about Mod (D) would be something like 140hrs! Curious where you copied your info from...

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                    • #11
                      AFPD34, I saved it from previous discussions on these forums. Last year I believe. I just checked some of the curriculum info that I have and here's what I have as of now.

                      The 2002 modules for FFII/Basic which were current as of 2009:
                      Organization, Fire Behavior, Safety, SCBA, Portable Extinguishers, Ladders, Fire Hose and App, EMS, Building Construction, Forcible Entry, Ventilation, Water Supply, Nozzles and Fire Streams, Rescue, Fire Control, Ropes, Loss Control, Fire Detection, Fire Prevention, Fire Cause, Communications, Terrorism, and Firefighter Survival.

                      Add FSVO (classroom only), Tech Rescue Awareness, and HazMat Awareness.

                      What's going to be required for FFIII/Advanced I have no idea for sure and is still being debated? I like your scenario better!
                      SFPD Member MABAS Division 47
                      Told my wife I'm at work. Told my boss I'm sick. I'm really at the fire station.
                      I.A.C.O.J.

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                      • #12
                        Implementation was suppose to be July 1st but have heard nothing, there is an 18month overlap period to finish up the old and startup the new. Old certs will be grandfathered. Now in order to obtain any certs you need Tech Rescue Awareness, and HazMat Awareness, 100 and 700 are federally required for all FF's, so mod d isn't that much. As for the 5 additions to advanced, don't worry kprsn, it's only 136 hrs...

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                        • #13
                          I hear ya trainer! Known it was coming so been working at getting the extra courses ever so slowly. Anyone know of a Vehicle Machinery Operations course coming up in Southern Illinois in the next year?

                          Chad
                          SFPD Member MABAS Division 47
                          Told my wife I'm at work. Told my boss I'm sick. I'm really at the fire station.
                          I.A.C.O.J.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kprsn1 View Post
                            I hear ya trainer! Known it was coming so been working at getting the extra courses ever so slowly. Anyone know of a Vehicle Machinery Operations course coming up in Southern Illinois in the next year?

                            Chad
                            I believe we are going to do another here sometime with in a year. Nothing set in stone yet... I will keep you posted

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for the responses everybody, sorry it took so long to reply back.
                              What I was looking for was some way to do the course work online or at home.
                              Then do the practicals through some Saturday meetings or something like that.
                              Like everybody else, don't have enough free nights to sit in another class.

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