Cape Coral Fire... ANy info

[fire emt herrera]

Anybody going out to cape coral this week for testing?

[fyrfytr4]

I'm sure it varies by department. With both departments I tested with I had to fill out a 15+ page questionnaire that I submitted to the city's HR department. The division responsible for hiring with the department reviewed the questionnaire and then called me for a polygraph (after pat/interviews).

Then when I took the polygraph I filled out the exact same questionnaire and then the polygraph tester went through it page by page and I had to explain/clarify some of my answers. The tester in both accounts told me that the department had already seen my answers and were okay with them, so as long as nothing had changed or I wasn't lying then there was no problem.

The polygraph is antiquated and should no longer be used as a hiring tool, however they still find people that lie on applications. One of the testers actually told me that he didn't rely on the machine so much as his gut while spending time talking to the applicants.

[John Hartman]

o see i was under the impression that the dept got a list of all the questions that were asked as well as your response pre during and post test. I am not reading on how to trick them, the whole idea of one truly intrigues me and just wanted to learn about them.

[fyrfytr4]

Forgot to add: I got a job offer from both places. The tester does not send the results of the polygraph machine to the hiring dept. They write a report which takes into account the results of the polygraph and also the two hours they spend talking to you.

[fyrfytr4]

Don't read about them, don't think about them, don't try to do anything to help you pass other than tell the truth. Just go in and try to relax as best as possible and tell the truth.

The first time I went in I was so nervous it said I was lying about a question. The question was vague and the tester told me he didn't believe the results and knew I was telling the truth. The second time I took a polygraph I was a lot more relaxed and had no problems.

[John Hartman]

well thats my goal, no one is a saint and no one, like you said, can know the truth other than you. So hopefully I get lucky and end up getting through.

[quickstangsvt302]

Well, nobody knows the truth but you. In the end it's up to the dept. IMO it's a waste. People have told the truth and failed, and people have lied about everything and passed go figure. Good luck though keep reading about them.

[John Hartman]

o i have done a good amount of reading up on them, and it seems like it is just a witch hunt imo. almost everything calls it a psuedo science and I have yet to actually find anything that say they can tell a lie. it almost seems that they assume if any of your vitals increase your a liar. which to me is insane. but hey if they wanna waste anywhere from 500 to 2k a guy for a "vitals" check maybe I am in the wrong profession. lol

[quickstangsvt302]

well word id that first two guys have failed the polygraph. I am guessing this poly is serious as all can be. what do you all think about departments using polys??? do u all agree with it or do you think it is a waste and good guys get passed up because their heart rate increased or their bp went up a few points.

I've taken two of them, and passed both times. It's a waste of time and money. It's impossible to really know if someone is telling the truth or not. It's just an interrogation tactic. Research them sometime it's pretty interesting.

[John Hartman]

well word id that first two guys have failed the polygraph. I am guessing this poly is serious as all can be. what do you all think about departments using polys??? do u all agree with it or do you think it is a waste and good guys get passed up because their heart rate increased or their bp went up a few points.

[John Hartman]

well interview and swim test done and passed. now wait to see if i get called to take a poly graph

[John Hartman]

Yeah lucky for us 1/2 the people didnt show they said... yeah im still waiting for the score as well... What time was your written test? mine was at 730 on the 18th and if there was only one testing time thats crazy how many people really didnt show up...

Yes there was only one testing and that was it 60 guys came out to test. Started off with 127 potentials. and after either not showing up or not passing the pat there were 60 that tested and they took the top 30 scores. Got my e-mail the other day and my interview/ swim test is march 2nd

[Buck Naked]

Yeah lucky for us 1/2 the people didnt show they said... yeah im still waiting for the score as well... What time was your written test? mine was at 730 on the 18th and if there was only one testing time thats crazy how many people really didnt show up...

[John Hartman]

well took the PAT no surprises there and then took their written test which was the NFSI I/O solutions test. now just waiting to hear back on my score they are taking the top 30 scores

[John Hartman]

they must being doing two days of PAT, cause i have two other buddies how got through and one of theirs is the 16th and the other the 17th. either way good luck to anyone going out