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  • Ambulances

    Do firefighters get to drive or ride in ambulances?

  • #2
    Depends on the department.
    Many fire departments also do EMS transports. In those organizations, most firefighters are dual qualified as FF/EMT or FF/parmedic. In those departments, it is very common for FFs to be either driver or provider on the ambulance.
    In other settings, all transport is done by private ambulance companies. While firefighters may be first responders to medical calls, they would usually hand the patient to the transport company and not ride on the ambulance themselves.

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    • #3
      We're served by a not-for-profit squad with ambulances generally staffed by a paramedic and a basic. Occasionally they'll have extra crew on board.

      My fire department does first responder, non-transport, although I personally am affiliated with the ambulance as well. Just the other night the crew asked me to drive to the hospital so the two on the crew could deal with a patient who needed extra attention enroute. And that's happened before. The other fire departments covered by this squad occasionally do the same, especially if the squad (which generally only staffs one rig) can muster up a medic, but no driver.

      It doesn't happen often, but it does happen.
      Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

      Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by tree68 View Post
        My fire department does first responder, non-transport, although I personally am affiliated with the ambulance as well. Just the other night the crew asked me to drive to the hospital so the two on the crew could deal with a patient who needed extra attention enroute. And that's happened before. The other fire departments covered by this squad occasionally do the same, especially if the squad (which generally only staffs one rig) can muster up a medic, but no driver.
        There are sometimes insurance quirks that limit the ability of fire departments to help out in that manner. In your case, you are affiliated with both organizations, so there is no issue. In our case, there 'memorandums of understanding' between some of the fire departments and the ambulance organization in place. A firefighter who is listed as a driver with his department is considered a member of the rescue squad the moment the OIC of the rescue squad asks him to drive. This has been cleared with the respective insurance companies.

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        • #5
          In Washington State Firefighter/EMT's and Firefighter/Paramedics on Fire Medic Units is pretty much normal SOP, especially in city fire departments and urban fire districts. Seattle/King County area fire rescue services usually have specialized Paramedic Positions as part of their Medic One program, who are not firefighters too But Medic One still uses Firefighters for BLS response as firefighter/EMT's. This has been pretty much standard since the 1960's or early 1970/s.

          Many Washington State Taxpayers were getting double duty from their tax funded 24/7/365 firefighters as EMT's and Paramedics for years. Call 911 for any emergency and your tax funded public police and/or fire/ems will be on the way, no charge, tax funded. Makes sense. or at least it used to.

          Now city fire departments do whatever they can to keep the property tax funding for fire/ems rolling in but also have started billing their taxpayers for EMS too, maybe even starting monthly ambulance utility billing of $15-$20 a month ($180-$240 a year) their taxpayers as well as the tax funding. And most fire administrations in Washington State now also bill their taxpayers for fire medic unit use too. $800-$1000 each use. Or maybe the fire administration doesn't bill their taxpayer at all yet for each ambulance use, they instead single out insurance only for payment, not billing their taxpayers without insurance at all and not billing their taxpayers for what their insurance won't pay, like co-pays and deductibles. Insurance only billing to supposedly pay for already Tax funded firefighters running tax funded fire medic units out of tax funded fire stations. Greedy politicians if you ask me.

          So what was a good deal for taxpayers, combining fire/ems has become a bad thing for taxpayers as politicians now pretend fire and ems are separate issues, for the sake of new monthly fees and user fees on top of property taxes that have always made fire/ems a tax funded and no charge service. As it should be. . I could go on an on. About how bad it is to impose monthly ambulance fees based on water bills vs raising the same funds with property taxes. Hint Apartment buildings and walmart only have one utility bill. just like a single family residence. And these utility customers all pay the same monthly ambulance utility bill.

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