Our dept has its own in house reports we do, then enter everything into the NFIRS system, my question is by entering a patient's name and info into NFIRS is that a HIPPA violation? Im pretty sure its not but want to know for sure.
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Originally posted by firefighterbeau View PostI thought HIPPA applied to all patient information, no matter billing or non-billing. Main question is NFIRS a secure system. Im just getting frustrated filling out our reports and having to leave so much blank.
I beleive there are no issues with placing patient names and info on NFRIS.Train to fight the fires you fight.
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If this really gets on your nerves that bad, make the EMS portion of the report locked to anyone but administrators.Career Firefighter
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Originally posted by firefighterbeau View PostI thought HIPPA applied to all patient information, no matter billing or non-billing.
1. Bill patients...
2. ...through insurance companies or insurance clearinghouses...
3. ...and you must do it electronically (that doesn't include fax, BTW)
Main question is NFIRS a secure system. Im just getting frustrated filling out our reports and having to leave so much blank."Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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We use Firehouse Software. It seperates the NFIRS report and the Patient Narritive. The NFIRS report can be pulled by anyone, it contains the address, nature and the NFIRS Narritive which stops at patient contact. The Patient Narritive contains the patient's name, medical data and inverventions performed. The Patient Narritive has limited access (designated QA/QC, original author, certain administrative positions...). I am sure that other software can do this.~Drew
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LAFire got it right... Wow.. Did I say that? He even called it by the right term,
HIPAA **NOT** HIPPA.
Something of a pet peeve of mine.
It only applies if you are a qualifying agency. Are you? You can find out by
reading the simple stuff at http://www.hhs.gov/ocr/privacy/
If you do not bill, and you are responding as YOUR agency, then HIPAA does
not apply. Common sense of course should apply in the stead.
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Originally posted by LVFD301 View PostHIPAA **NOT** HIPPA
Common sense of course should apply in the stead."Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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While I know that the OP and I live in different states, I think that it's worth mentioning our situation in Virginia.
We can NOT enter the patient's name in the NFIRS report, as the NFIRS reports have to be released upon a FOIA request, whereas a subpoena is required for the release of the patient care report. I would suspect that many other states fall under the same guidelines, and caution should be used when placing the patient's name on the NFIRS report.
This is outside of requirements that HIPAA may our may not have locally.Career Fire Captain
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Originally posted by BoxAlarm187 View PostWe can NOT enter the patient's name in the NFIRS report, as the NFIRS reports have to be released upon a FOIA request,"Nemo Plus Voluptatis Quam Nos Habant"
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The Code is more what you'd call "guidelines" than actual rules.
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