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  • Firefightersfor9-11truth.org

    Does anyone know anything about this organization or the alleged firefighter who is behind it:

    Erik Lawyer
    Seattle Fire
    3 Truck
    erik@firefightersfor911truth.org

    http://firefightersfor911truth.org/?page_id=2

    I tired of debunking 9/11 conspiracies long ago, but this site just came to my attention. I was unaware of any conspiracy site claiming to fire based, until I saw this one, which appears to have no following whatsoever.

    Thanks.
    Last edited by LtTony; 03-28-2009, 01:20 PM.

  • #2
    In before the lock.
    This space for rent

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    • #3
      Have you been to Seattle? I dated a girl from there, 90% of those people are so delusional they think their cereal is after them.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jonnyirons2 View Post
        Have you been to Seattle? I dated a girl from there, 90% of those people are so delusional they think their cereal is after them.
        It's gotta be a "cereal" stalker/killer.






        Jason Knecht
        Firefighter/EMT
        Township Fire Dept., Inc.
        Eau Claire, WI

        IACOJ - Director of Cheese and Whine
        http://www.cheddarvision.tv/
        EAT CHEESE OR DIE!!

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        • #5
          Not too worth our time or effort, but I sent a email to a buddy at SFD asking about this individual.
          I know there's a few SFD folks on here that can maybe answer too....

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          • #6
            Forum member Ladder8 is from Seattle. Maybe he can give us the "411" on this "9-11" conspiracy theorist.
            ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
            Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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            • #7
              My opinion on these guys.............

              Bunch of..
              Attached Files
              Jason Knecht
              Firefighter/EMT
              Township Fire Dept., Inc.
              Eau Claire, WI

              IACOJ - Director of Cheese and Whine
              http://www.cheddarvision.tv/
              EAT CHEESE OR DIE!!

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              • #8
                Hmmm....I wonder......

                http://www.eriklawyer.com/

                Just what does molten concrete look like, anyways?
                "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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                • #9
                  cuckoo cuckoo
                  Attached Files
                  Originally Posted by madden01
                  "and everyone is encouraged to use Plain, Spelled Out English. I thought this was covered in NIMS training."

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                  • #10
                    Good grief.

                    I can't even type what I want in reply.
                    I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                    "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                    "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
                      Good grief.

                      I can't even type what I want in reply.
                      Just nothing that violates your parole......






                      Jason Knecht
                      Firefighter/EMT
                      Township Fire Dept., Inc.
                      Eau Claire, WI

                      IACOJ - Director of Cheese and Whine
                      http://www.cheddarvision.tv/
                      EAT CHEESE OR DIE!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Dickey View Post
                        Just nothing that violates your parole......


                        As long as I don't consort with degenerates.... WAIT a minute...

                        I might be in trouble then.



                        What's that old saying?

                        "Dont tell my mom I work for the Fire Department! She thinks i'm a piano player at a whorehouse".
                        I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

                        "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

                        "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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                        • #13
                          My buddy tells me, "Great guy and one hell of a fire fighter but that shift has been drinking the conspiracy cool aid from one of their officers."

                          Not worth anymore effort here.
                          Let this thread die.

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                          • #14
                            Nice try.

                            That is a very elaborate and expensive website to put up and maintain. The content is highly inflammatory. It is difficult for me to understand how a guy could be influenced by his officer to go out and do this.

                            Methinks there is a tad more to the story.

                            But it is admirable that you would try to protect your brother FF and get us to drop this thread.
                            PROUD, HONORED AND HUMBLED RECIPIENT OF THE PURPLE HYDRANT AWARD - 10/2007.

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                            • #15
                              I got to this section and quit:

                              NFPA (National Fire Protection Association) 921, which is the National Standard for Fire and Explosion Investigations, very clearly indicates in numerous sections that the possibility of explosives should have been thoroughly investigated. Specifically in NFPA 921 18.3.2 High Order Damage - “High-order damage is characterized by shattering of the structure, producing small, pulverized debris. Walls, roofs, and structural members are splintered or shattered, with the building completely demolished. Debris is thrown great distances, possibly hundreds of feet. High-order damage is the result of rapid rates of pressure rise.” World Trade Center’s 1, 2, and 7 all clearly met this definition; therefore they should have been thoroughly investigated and analyzed for explosives. Specifically, the use of “exotic accelerants” should have been investigated. In NFPA 921 19.2.4 -”Exotic Accelerants,” three indicators were clearly met that should have led to a thorough investigation in to the possible use of “exotic accelerants,” specifically as stated in the guideline, “Thermite mixtures.”

                              So, why was the possibility of explosives, controlled demolition, or the use of “exotic accelerants” not thoroughly investigated, or even mentioned in the 9-11 Commission Report?

                              Firefighters for 9-11 Truth demand the following:

                              A truly independent investigation with Subpoena and Contempt Powers to uncover the complete truth of the events related to 9/11/2001 – specifically the collapse of WTC Tower 7 and the possibility of explosive demolition.
                              The investigation to follow the national standards so clearly outlined in the National Fire Protection Association guidelines, specifically, NFPA 921 to include thorough analysis of the steel for the presence of “exotic accelerants.”
                              Congress to honor the promises made to the rescue workers of 9/11 by passing the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2008.
                              Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the planning, and execution of the murders committed on September 11, 2001.
                              Prosecution of all individuals willfully involved in the Obstruction of Justice and Destruction of Evidence surrounding the events of September 11, 2001.
                              NFPA 921 is not an outline for investigating a terrorism incident. It is a guideline for investigating fires and explosions. It would not be appropriate for this type of incident.

                              Also, the definitions and sections cited are grossly taken out of context for self-serving reasons.

                              These folks are flippin' nut jobs.
                              PROUD, HONORED AND HUMBLED RECIPIENT OF THE PURPLE HYDRANT AWARD - 10/2007.

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