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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    Originally posted by nyckftbl View Post
    They just did a lot of renovations there, right? It was closed for some time. How was it?
    Much, much better. They did alot of interior renovation that opened it up and made it flow better. The IMAX theater was pretty impressive. The only thing is that they seemed to have made it about 50% about global warming. Parking is better, too. Worth the trip.

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  • nyckftbl
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    Hey! Good news!

    I took the kids to the Liberty Science Center on Fri. They had a beam and a girder from the WTC there. I checked-no residue of high explosives.

    We're good.
    They just did a lot of renovations there, right? It was closed for some time. How was it?

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  • scfire86
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    Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
    A memorial has to be a part of the plan.
    Absolutely.

    Originally posted by ChiefKN View Post
    The discussion is academic as (I believe) the design and scope of the rebuilding is just about finalized.
    This one is better.
    Attached Files

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    Hey! Good news!

    I took the kids to the Liberty Science Center on Fri. They had a beam and a girder from the WTC there. I checked-no residue of high explosives.

    We're good.

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  • DaveHouston
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    Please don't delete.

    Hi guys,

    I signed up just to post this here. I found this discussion through a link on the JREF 9/11 conspiracy subforum: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=140286

    If you have a look over there you'll see that almost everyone appreciates seeing you guys set Eric and his followers straight. We constantly challenge them to present their "evidence" to people like firefighters and structural engineers, and it's nice to see what happens when they finally do.

    I realize that people like Eric raise your ire, rightfully so. What they're doing is a disgrace to the memories of your comrades who fell on 9/11. Lock this discussion down if you need to, but please don't delete it entirely. The points you have all raised are all very valuable and would be a great resource when dealing with others who claim that firefighters have bought into their lies.

    Thanks, and thanks for all you do.

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  • ChiefKN
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    Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
    I'm going to change gears on this thread. I've done all the head shaking I can do with yet another group of loony birds who would believe the nonsense they are claiming.

    A lot has been written about what to do with the site of the WTC. This is my opinion and my opinion only so keep that in mind when or if the flaming begins.

    These were commercial structures owned by a private entity inhabited by people doing commmerce. The terrorists struck not only to cause fear in our populace but also to disrupt our society in how it does business. In some ways they have succeeded. You know what I mean if you've been to an airport lately.

    So what to do.

    I believe (I'm sure there might be tons of financial reasons why my idea is unreasonable, let alone the political issues) the propietors of that property should rebuild the WTC complex only make the buildings one story higher. A giant F-U to the terrorists. After the completion, it would send the message to those *********s we've not been disrupted and it was like their heinous act never happened.

    That was my initial reaction to... right after it happened.

    I think that we should bring back the commerical aspects, but the site has become so much more. It's the final resting spot for so many lives, such tragedy.

    The event has forever changed us.

    A memorial has to be a part of the plan.

    The discussion is academic as (I believe) the design and scope of the rebuilding is just about finalized.

    http://www.renewnyc.com/ThePlan/worl...ter_towers.asp

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  • scfire86
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    I'm going to change gears on this thread. I've done all the head shaking I can do with yet another group of loony birds who would believe the nonsense they are claiming.

    A lot has been written about what to do with the site of the WTC. This is my opinion and my opinion only so keep that in mind when or if the flaming begins.

    These were commercial structures owned by a private entity inhabited by people doing commmerce. The terrorists struck not only to cause fear in our populace but also to disrupt our society in how it does business. In some ways they have succeeded. You know what I mean if you've been to an airport lately.

    So what to do.

    I believe (I'm sure there might be tons of financial reasons why my idea is unreasonable, let alone the political issues) the propietors of that property should rebuild the WTC complex only make the buildings one story higher. A giant F-U to the terrorists. After the completion, it would send the message to those *********s we've not been disrupted and it was like their heinous act never happened.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    Originally posted by ffbam24 View Post
    And he's coming to NYC next season!!!

    Coincidence?
    Or
    Conspiracy????
    Just in time to get to the bottom of this.

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  • ffbam24
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    And he's coming to NYC next season!!!

    Coincidence?
    Or
    Conspiracy????

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  • CaptainGonzo
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    Originally posted by GeorgeWendtCFI View Post
    I think we should blame it on Starkwood.
    Don't worry, George.... Jack will sort out this mess.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    I think we should blame it on Starkwood.

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  • ChiefKN
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    Originally posted by ThNozzleman View Post
    Yeah...but it was brief. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to get the dog to come out from underneath the bed.
    Now that right there is funny! And sad, as it reminds of my best friend who had to be put down 2 months ago and would frequenctly skulk out of the room when I started yelling at the ball game on the TV.

    Anyway...

    What a sad and scary world these folks live in, to believe these far-fetched "world is out to get you" things.

    September 11th was scary enough as it was, to add this bizarre twist to it? I don't know.

    Is it gullibility? Is it a bizarre world view? Is it some organic issue with their brains?

    I don't know. But how sad for them.

    .

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  • ThNozzleman
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    As mad as you are, you had to be chuckling when you wrote that.
    Yeah...but it was brief. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm trying to get the dog to come out from underneath the bed.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    Serial dumbassery?

    As mad as you are, you had to be chuckling when you wrote that.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
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    The fact the many leaders in fire investigation, and Bill Manning from Fire Engineering called for the destruction of evidence to stop, and yet it did not.
    Name them. If you don't name them, I will assume that you made it up.

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