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  • bcarey
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    Last Updated on 06-09-2005.

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  • bcarey
    replied
    an unofficial Webteam response

    Originally posted by nmfire View Post
    Why is this moronic thread even being allowed to continue? Oh yea, the webteam is impotent and useless. Maybe if they came around more than twice a year, it would help.
    "I fully expect to be lambasted here, I don't care."
    - Chitown

    That is reason enough alone to let it stay.

    I believe it to be disrespectful to have the so-called conspiracy theories posted. I support their right to post it, within the terms of service as a customer relation and as far as responsibilities at work. I don't believe in these myths nor have I explored them with the slightest hint of curiosity. Each time one of these theories is raised on the forums, my initial reaction is to have us close the thread. One of the biggest complaints from individuals and organizations insinuating conspiracies is that the government and authorities work to keep 'the truth' from being known. Shutting down such threads, or banning users who post those threads, plays right into their hand.

    In this thread, and others similar, there are three types of user responses: 1. take your conspiracy theory and shove it; 2. debating it with facts; and 3. ignoring it. You can freely choose any of them. My personal views on problem threads lies with how it would be taken inside the firehouse dayroom. If you open up a can of worms in your own house, you have to take what you dish out. You will quickly be the low man on the pecking order and eating your meals with no one beside you. That is why I printed and filed Chitown's post and highlighted Chitown's quote above.

    We are free to chose what we want to read and if we want to participate in the discussion or not. This subject will eventually die down and the majority of you will be discussing whether or not we should critique a LODD seconds after someone posted it on Twitter, or whether or not explorers can participate in exterior fireground operations. "Nyckftbl" and others will wonder why there is more participation in "What Brand Glove Should I Buy?" than the Tactics threads, and "E40FDNYL35" will continue to pass along the important information that the news, and some of us, forget despite "Never Forget".

    I wear Tom Butler's bracelet. He still has not been "found".
    -correction, Tom was found, as far as our latest updates show.

    How many who can quickly trade comments back and forth about a conspiracy, either for or against, just as quickly recall how many brothers have still not been found?

    Bill Carey
    Last edited by bcarey; 04-03-2009, 12:41 PM. Reason: update from members missing

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  • sfd1992
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    Originally posted by Firegod343 View Post
    Hey......

    Any of you Seattle guys got Hanna Montana tickets?

    Instead of worrying about a 9/11 conspiracy, you should focus on the one going on in your agency.

    FG
    Careful judging 900+ people based on the actions of a few d-bags. I'm sure your FD has at least a couple of idiots that we could paint the whole group with.

    Glass houses my friend.....

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  • JasonAbney
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    So it seems like the general consensus is that all we need to do is go and speak with the FDNY guys that were there that day and we will find out what really happened. A scenario in your would would look something like this: A structure fire where there was an internal floor collapse. Mr. Wendt is the investigator in charge. His entire investigation would consist of interviewing all firemen that were on scene to witness the collapse. Mr. Wendt's report would say, "After interviewing all of the on scene personnel they have told me that they witnessed "X" happen. We do not need to review the arson threats we received on this building, nor do we need to test for accelerants because none of the witnesses believe it was arson with accelerants involved."

    Well, since most cities are in a severe budget crunch right now, I think we can use this new found knowledge to inform our chiefs that we no longer need our fire investigation units.

    Jason Abney
    B3/C

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  • ChiefKN
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    Originally posted by Chitown View Post
    When these historical facts are brought to light, one may find himself being labeled as “anti-American” or “unpatriotic” for not going along with the government’s agenda.
    Hey Genius, what facts? You haven't identified, nor have any of your lunatic friends given any facts.


    I fully expect to be lambasted here, I don't care. I've never been a conspiracy theorist (amazing that just a phrase can shut down a debate, huh?) a terrorist sympathizer or a "tin-foil hat" wearer. I am a family man, a fireman & a patriot who is not willing to stand by & do nothing as our Nation falls.
    Yes, I'm sure you are going to get lambasted here. Because you are an uneducated idiot led astray by some graphics and color pictures.

    I'm not going to try & convince anyone of anything. There is enough information & history available that if you choose not to educate yourselves, that's on you. However, without all availible info taken into account, it's impossible to form a valid conclusion. Anyone that chooses to be "blissfully ignorant" of the events that are unfolding as we speak, can no longer be considered innocent, learn your history.
    There is enough information & history to refute all that you believe. This blind belief in some complicated conspiracy theory is the sign of low intelligence.

    You bring up the Nazi's, it was people like you and your comrades that were stupid enough then to buy into their assinine theories like an "aryan nation" and "the final solution".

    People wonder how the holocaust could've happened. Assemble enough of these idiots together and voila!

    I hold our 343 fallen Brothers in the most sacred place in my heart. I also give you all the respect you deserve & sincerely hope that yourselves & your families come out of this comming crisis O.K.
    As for myself, I will continue to do what I believe is morally right, reguardless of how uncomfortable or unpopular it is.
    No, you continue to expose the survivors to more pain and distress. You should be ashamed.

    OH, and don't call them your brothers.

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  • GeorgeWendtCFI
    replied
    Originally posted by Firegod343 View Post
    Hey......

    Any of you Seattle guys got Hanna Montana tickets?

    Instead of worrying about a 9/11 conspiracy, you should focus on the one going on in your agency.

    FG
    I hardly think that one dishonest scumbag equals a conspiracy.

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  • nmfire
    replied
    Why is this moronic thread even being allowed to continue? Oh yea, the webteam is impotent and useless. Maybe if they came around more than twice a year, it would help.

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  • LtTony
    replied
    I'm not going to try & convince anyone of anything. There is enough information & history available that if you choose not to educate yourselves, that's on you. However, without all availible info taken into account, it's impossible to form a valid conclusion. Anyone that chooses to be "blissfully ignorant" of the events that are unfolding as we speak, can no longer be considered innocent, learn your history.
    In other words: Not going to try and convince anyone of anything, but if we understand the facts differently than you, were are uneducated, unlearned and "blissfully ignorant", and have reached an invalid conclusion.

    Please don't patronize us.

    FyredUp: Chitown...

    Why did you delete your name from your fantasy letter you never sent?

    You are a phony.
    Exactly. Telling that his first post at the forum is on this thread.

    What kind of complete numbskull comes to a firefighter website, with a handfull of FDNY firefighters as members, and presumes to tell those that were there what actually happened.
    Bingo again, FyredUp.

    And like you, I think koolaid and chitown should each grow a pair and talk to the FDNY guys that were there. They weren't cowards that day, and they aren't today.

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  • Firegod343
    replied
    Hey......

    Any of you Seattle guys got Hanna Montana tickets?

    Instead of worrying about a 9/11 conspiracy, you should focus on the one going on in your agency.

    FG

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  • eaglesrule1024
    replied


    I think this pretty much sums up how I feel.

    Rpb

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  • CaptainGonzo
    replied
    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Chitown...

    Why did you delete your name from your fantasy letter you never sent?

    You are a phony.
    '

    I think his real screen name has an S starting it... and any other Brother from Chicago should treat you like a pariah...

    Don... I'm puking right along side of you, Brother.
    Last edited by CaptainGonzo; 04-02-2009, 11:33 PM.

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  • JasonAbney
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    Its a good thing that great men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Martin Luther King and Gandhi did not let the possibility of physical harm stop them in their quest to make this world a better place. If positive change were left up to guys like you then it would never happen.

    Try to put aside your fear and anger for a moment and tell me what takes more balls: To follow the thoughts and actions of the masses, devoid of any original thought and living a life indistinguishable from anyone else, or to think and act differently from everyone else, using critical and independent thinking, knowing full well that it could end in severe bodily harm including death.

    Jason Abney
    B3/C

    Originally posted by FyredUp View Post
    Geezus is it a damn full moon? All the frigging conspiracy lunatics are out.

    What kind of complete numbskull comes to a firefighter website, with a handfull of FDNY firefighters as members, and presumes to tell those that were there what actually happened.

    Personally these conspiracy guys make me want to ****ing puke. They come here and spread their vile nonsense amongst people that have not one inkling of interest in what they have to say. Again, until any of you have the BALLS to walk into an FDNY firehouse, particularly some of those with the greatest losses of guys, and talk about your beliefs you are nothing but pot stirring bitches not worthy of calling yourself firefighters.

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  • FyredUp
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    Chitown...

    Why did you delete your name from your fantasy letter you never sent?

    You are a phony.

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  • FyredUp
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    Geezus is it a damn full moon? All the frigging conspiracy lunatics are out.

    What kind of complete numbskull comes to a firefighter website, with a handfull of FDNY firefighters as members, and presumes to tell those that were there what actually happened.

    Personally these conspiracy guys make me want to ****ing puke. They come here and spread their vile nonsense amongst people that have not one inkling of interest in what they have to say. Again, until any of you have the BALLS to walk into an FDNY firehouse, particularly some of those with the greatest losses of guys, and talk about your beliefs you are nothing but pot stirring bitches not worthy of calling yourself firefighters.

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  • MIKEYLIKESIT
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    P.S.
    Yo Chitown, I am throwing the bull**** flag on your letter to Brooks, Orozco and Father Mulcrone. You know as well as I do that your opinion wouldnt last five seconds in a real Chicago firehouse. A letter like that would have you shipped off to medical for a psychological evaluation.
    Last edited by MIKEYLIKESIT; 04-02-2009, 09:27 PM.

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