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  • Training officer rank

    I was looking on a little feed back on the rank of other departments training officers.

    With our department they are a Captain.
    But will soon be bumping it up to A-Chief.

    My thought is we will soon have some people in the ranks with the qualifications to apply for this job. However they may be passed up becuase they have not made captain yet. Some in our department feel for training they need that label for authority because they train other ACs on a daily bases. I thind if a training officer is worth his weight he will gain respect anyway.

  • #2
    Our training officer is also a captain. High enough to get respect, and low enough to not have to deal with all the basic B.S chiefs and A. Chiefs have to deal with.

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    • #3
      The training responsibility is delegated on an annual basis by our Chief. Some times it's a Captain, sometimes it's an Lt. It all depends on who's most qualified at the time.

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      Susan Bednar
      Forsyth Rescue Squad (Captain)
      NCTF-1
      Griffith Volunteer FD

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      • #4
        Our training officer has no rank. Gets a white shirt and a gold badge. Wahoo.

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        AAD
        Eng. Co. 9
        RFD

        "In all of us there are heroes... speak to them and they will come forth."

        "In order for us to achieve all that is demanded of us, we must regard ourselves as greater than we are."

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        • #5
          In my department, it is a combined position, which is STO (Safety and Training Officer). He is ranked between the Captian and 1st Lieutenant. But on any safety issue can overrule the chief. Ive always used the theory that at least two heads are beter than one especially when it comes to safety.

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          • #6
            Our department's training division consists of an assistant chief and two captains.

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            • #7
              Training officer in our department is a seperate postion. Training officer is training officer, not another rank. It is chosen every year by the other line officers based on qualification and willingness to take on the responsibility.

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              • #8
                The City of Bayonne (NJ) Fire Department has a Battalion Chief as the Chief of Training and a Lieutenant as the Assistant Training Officer. If more instructors are needed for specialized training, either Captains, Lieutenants or Firefighters can be taken off the line and assigned to the Training Division.

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                Kevin M. Fitzhenry, [email protected]
                Firefighter, Truck Co. 2
                City of Bayonne (NJ) FD
                www.bayonnenj.org/fire/

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                • #9
                  I am not sure how they do it today, but back in the 1960's and 1970's, the Youngstown Fire Dept.'s training officer was the most senior officer, who traditionally wore badge number 1. Most of the time he was an Assistant or Battalion Chief.

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                  Joe
                  Daysleeper47
                  "When the bell goes ding-ding, its time to get on the woo-woo."
                  "Dusting desire - starting to learn. Walking through fire with out a burn..."
                  Youngstown Fire Department

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                  • #10
                    When I first got into our department, the Training Officer was one of the Asst. Chiefs. However, in 1996, I was given the position of Training Officer with the rank of Lieutenant. I have since moved up the ranks and was promoted to Asst. Chief in January of 2001. I have been the training officer for the last 5 years.

                    The position of Training Officer does not necessarily mean the individual has to "outrank" anyone to train them properly. I have learned from experience that "years" and "experience" are 2 different things. If a volunteer has "15 years" in the department and still doesn't know about basic fire behavior, the "experience" is not there, just the years of service.

                    Since becoming the Training Officer, I have achieved my certification as a Firefighter II, Emergency Rescue Technician, and a Fire & Rescue Instructor. I have been ale to teach many classes at our deparmtent, as well as schedule many outside instructors. I am one of the two certified instructors of our Department. Between us, we usually teach most of the classes.



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                    *****The opinions expressed are mine and do not necessarily reflect those of my department********

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                    • #11
                      Our Training officer and assistant TO are appointed yearly by the new Line Officers. We have recognized ranks of Chief, A Chief, Captain, and Safety Officer (a LT. technically) The Safety officer is the low man on the food chain of officers, unless it is a safety issue then he/she outranks all. The training officer is seen only on training night, or with new "probies" getting their primary training done. He/She holds no rank. They gave this position a Line officer call number of 205 at one time, but that fell to the wayside after one year.

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                      Your Brother In The Service,
                      Rob Herpel
                      FF/EMT
                      Vice-Pres./Asst. EMS Coordinator
                      Fremont Rural Fire Department

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