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  • WD6956
    started a topic Question about boots (Brands)

    Question about boots (Brands)

    Our current safety rules say that are boots "Must have a defined heel and a heavy duty sole with some type of traction aid". They also must be "lace up" I have spent hundreds (close to a thousand) of dollars over the past 10 years on "winter boots" that are insulated and waterproof. And now, once again, for another year i have cold, wet feet and am out (this year) $200.00. The problem more then anything is the boot height. I walk in snow as deep as 2-3 FEET! on a daily basis. Just last night i had to walk almost 3/4 of a mile from my locomotives to a waiting taxi in snow above my knees. It took close to an hour and my beautiful Danner GoreTex/Thinsulate waterproof boots were totally waterlogged and my feet frozen. Nobody makes lace up waterproof safety toe boots in knee high models. And quite frankly, i would not enjoy taking the time to lace them on and off each day. So i suffer and use my electric boot dryer daily. I have tried gaiters but they never last since they have the strap that goes under the boot by the heel. I climb ladders so often they get destroyed.

    Yesterday i sat down with our company safetey officer and asked about the possibility of wearing rubber overboots or the rubber "construction worker type" boots. And they said no because they are not steel toe and do not offer any real ankle support. They are also not lace up. BUT, as it turns out, he happens to be a volunteer in his local department and said "The only exception i would make is if you bought some super heavy duty fire department type bunker boots" The reason being is he knows they are certainly up to the task. He even said he would actually give me a letter granting me permission to use a non lace up style boot so long as they are NFPA approved.

    My local FD supply house stocks Thorogood, Black Diamond and Lacrosse. I am planning on going there when they reopen monday. But i also know there are plenty of other brands on line. Globe, Warrington, Ranger, Servus, etc. I am guessing i am much better off trying them on in the store, but what are your opinions? My requirements are waterproof, warmth and comfort.
    Last edited by WD6956; 04-21-2011, 07:05 PM.

  • AnnyWest
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    In addition to the waterproof boots, I am also looking for other rainy day outfits for the cold winter day because it rains sometimes in the winter too. Thus, winter coats and jackets are not enough, maybe rain jackets can do.

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  • Trainer67
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    We've tried all the boots out

    We've done field tests on all the slip on boots out there, both leather and rubber, and have to say that without a doubt the best one we found was the Airboss cbrn boot. It was as light and as comfy as any of the leather boots (way better than any other rubber). Plus the fit was just incredible. Nice and tight around the ankle and the foot, but not too much. I'm surpirsed not more people have mentioned it. It was the overwhelming choice of over 90% of our guys.

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  • Gnufsh
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    Originally posted by neiowa View Post
    Problem is snow down your boots. Taller boots is not the solution. Get a set of gaiters. google on - snow gaiters
    Yup, this is what most people who hike in the snow use. It is required equipment for my county search and rescue team.

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  • neiowa
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    Originally posted by WD6956 View Post
    I want advice from the experts, the people who wear boots every day in all conditions...

    I tried a search, but found no thread(s) that covered what i am asking about. So please bear with me. I would really appreciate input from you all.

    I am looking to pick up a pair of bunker boots. They will not be used for structural fire fighting though. These will be for my job with the railroad.
    ..
    Problem is snow down your boots. Taller boots is not the solution. Get a set of gaiters. google on - snow gaiters

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  • Jwarne2001
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    For me, the difference between rubber and leather boots was night and day. Like going from a Honda to a Cadillac. The rubber ones work fine but compared to the leather, they don't even compare. They don't really break in, are uncomfortable and get cold. We trained for 10 months in rubber boots and after we completed training, were issued new leather Haix's.

    I think my feet actually sighed the first time I stepped into them. Very comfortable, warm and fit well. Portland doesn't get much in the way of snow and cold weather.....but this year we spent the better part of December with anywhere from 6" to 18" of snow on the ground, including ice and temps in the teens for awhile. Wore them on most runs and never had any problem with cold or wet feet.

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  • WD6956
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    Just an update for anyone interested in leather boots. I have been wearing my new Black Diamond X boots since the day i bought them well over a month ago. Every single day. They are incredible. More comfortable then any other leather work boot i have ever owned. I am beyond impressed. An average work day for me is 12-14 hours wearing boots. My feet have yet to feel sore from these.

    If anyone is looking at leather bunkers boots, check out the X boots.

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  • FlyingKiwi
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    Move where it doesn't snow.

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  • WD6956
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    Originally posted by dmleblanc View Post
    Seems like I'm a little late getting to the party (since you've already bought the boots), but have you considered buying some waterproof socks (like Sealskinz)?

    http://www.danalco.com/


    They're knee high and you could wear any old leather boots you like....wouldn't matter if the boots aren't totally waterproof. Then if a sock develops a leak you could just replace them...I think they go for around $40. Mind you, I haven't actually tried them, because they are kind of pricey and I've never really had the need. Sounds like you have the need. According to their website, REI carries them.
    I have contemplated those exact socks and a few other types. I have several issues with going the waterproof sock route....

    #1. Price. At as much as $25+ a pair, having a weeks supply on hand can get way too costly. I go away as long as 3 days at time so i would not be able to get by with just a pair or two. Not to mention, with only a few pairs, frequent laundry will become a must, kind of annoying if it's just to wash a few pairs of socks.

    #2. Size, i wear a 15, i have not seen SealSkinz offering anything bigger then a 13.

    And lastly, the idea of my feet being dry but squishing around in a waterlogged boot does not really interest me.

    But thanks anyway for the suggestion!.

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  • txgp17
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    I've had Warrington & Thorogood, and have been satisfied with each.

    In general, I'd recommend you steer clear of anything that is glued like a sneaker. The HIAX I've seen are made this way. Boots made like this are less durable and harder to resole.
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  • dmleblanc
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    Seems like I'm a little late getting to the party (since you've already bought the boots), but have you considered buying some waterproof socks (like Sealskinz)?

    http://www.danalco.com/


    They're knee high and you could wear any old leather boots you like....wouldn't matter if the boots aren't totally waterproof. Then if a sock develops a leak you could just replace them...I think they go for around $40. Mind you, I haven't actually tried them, because they are kind of pricey and I've never really had the need. Sounds like you have the need. According to their website, REI carries them.

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  • WD6956
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    Well, just went to my local Fire supply house. Amazingly they had a few types of boots in size 14 and 15.

    I tried on a pair of Lacrosse Rubber boots and while they fit nice and had lots of insulation, they still were not anywhere near a "shoe fit". They felt like the typical slip on style rubber rain boots. Even though they were the correct size, they simply had too much room to make them feel comfortable. They offered very little support. I was not happy with the fit. I tried a pair of Thorogood rubber as well, same issue.

    As luck would have it, they had a pair of size 15 Black Diamond X Boots and as soon as i got one on, i was sold. What an incredible feel. They fit like a sneaker and felt like they were made for my feet. $260.00 and i was out the door. No tax, no shipping. And best of all, i LOVE the boots.

    I would have loved to have tried the Haix, Globe and Warrington and maybe one (or all) of those brands would have felt even better. But for the price and best of all, the chance to try them on before i bought them, i have no regrets.

    I am a 100% firm believer in the idea that leather boots are a world of difference in comfort. Even though they literally cost twice what rubber would have, in my opinion, its worth it.

    Thank you to all who responded. Be safe, Happy new year.
    Last edited by WD6956; 04-21-2011, 07:05 PM.

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  • lexfd5
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    Originally posted by WD6956 View Post
    Amazing, on a forum with THOUSANDS of bunker boot wearing firefighters that only FOUR people have any comments on brands and styles?
    Buy HAIX they are based in my first due area...we could use the tax revenue.

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  • WD6956
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    Amazing, on a forum with THOUSANDS of bunker boot wearing firefighters that only FOUR people have any comments on brands and styles?

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  • SFDNVExplorer
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    I have the same questions on sizing of boots as WD6956. I know the rubbers I have now are 2 sizes smaller than my normal shoe size (Rangers). I'm looking at getting Warrington Pro 5006's but i want to get the right size. Ideas?

    Thanks,

    Andrew

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