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Gamewell station Gong! Need wiring help

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  • #31
    Gamewell wiring issues UPDATE

    Again thanks to all who keep reading my amateur BS problems and continue to offer their time. I do appreciate it. I have finally wire this beast according to everybodys drawings etc. The 2nd and 3rd pin is where I want to be to supply the power for the coil on my relay when the charger contacts activate. Everyone, including myself, have assumed that I have Motorola amp charger model NRN3041A, 3042A, or 3044A. These all have the 6 pin accessory port on back. All the posted lierature clearly shows pin 2-3 as the "dry contact"

    Here is the Million Dollar F-up on my part. The Motorola Amp charger I have is Model NLN4985. Yes I do have the accessory port on the back for a DIN connector only it has 5 pins not 6. With this new correct wiring as stated above, I believe that my models pin 2-3 are NOT the dry contacts because the unit will not trip my relay still. Also I get feedback out of the chargers main speaker when I hook DC power to pins 2-3. If we assume 2-3 are open till the tones activate it, there should be no reason to be getting any feedback from the base unit (open closure NO current flowing right!). This is why I think the "dry closure" might be different pins on my charger.

    So I'm now trying to find different combinations for this other that just 2-3. Anyone have any pin assignments for this particular unit that isolate where the contact closure is for the NLN4985. Again Thanks for all your time.

    P.S. I hope this S^@! isn't on my Lt's test comin' up

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    • #32
      what i would do to prevent the magic smoke escape is wire the relay in the amp to another hard mount relay control switches..then the full power of the end load is going through the big relay and the little relay is just being used to trip the big relay

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      • #33
        Gamewell bell is working!!!

        Well after much input from everyone here the bell is ringing again! On this particular model I have the "dry contact closure" are pins 3 and 5. Thanks for all your help.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by ffjkf55 View Post
          Well after much input from everyone here the bell is ringing again! On this particular model I have the "dry contact closure" are pins 3 and 5. Thanks for all your help.
          Awesome News - Knew you could make it happen if you stuck with it long enough. Glad you got it figured out.
          Take Care - Stay Safe - God Bless
          Stephen
          FF/Paramedic
          Instructor

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          • #35
            That is great! Way to go!

            Always good to preserve some of your history.
            I am now a past chief and the views, opinions, and comments are mine and mine alone. I do not speak for any department or in any official capacity. Although, they would be smart to listen to me.

            "The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list."

            "When tempted to fight fire with fire, remember that the Fire Department usually uses water."

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            • #36
              where can I get a relay to use.?

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              • #37
                Another Option

                You might consider a Federal Signal Informer http://www.federalwarningsystems.com....php?prodid=25

                I used an external repeat cycle relay and diode to protect the contacts in the Informer.

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                • #38
                  There are some directions up for auction on E-bay under Gamewell fire alarm. If that does not help I have some instructions that I aquired to do the same thing you are doing except I am putting this system in my private ffrie museum at my place. I can try to copy what I have and send it to you.

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                  • #39
                    http://www.veetronix.com/Web%20alert%20man.pdf

                    Exactly what you need in a receiver, and probably cheaper than any of the other solutions.

                    If you want to get really carried away, set up a motor with a wheel and switch (like the Gamewell's used) to bang out your station number...
                    Opinions my own. Standard disclaimers apply.

                    Everyone goes home. Safety begins with you.

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                    • #40
                      hello, I am currently restoring a SAFA street box (Gamewell competitor), and I plan to hook it up to a bell/gong. I can't find any Gamewell gongs or bells though. I have seen videos of people converting Simplex or other fire bells to ring the box code, but I don't know how to wire that. Also, I know the boxes run on 12 volts DC 100 Milliamps, but does that change when you add a bell to the loop? Any info helps. Thanks

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                      • #41
                        If you're on FaceBook, there is a Gamewell group...

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                        • #42
                          Thanks a lot!

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