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    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY DRY FIREHALLS(NO ALCOHOL) I FEEL TIMES HAVE CHANGED,MY OPION IS I THINK THERE SHOULD BE NO ALCOHOL ALLOWED IN FIRE DEPTS. WHERE RISKING NOT ONLY OUR LIVES ALREADY BY THIS JOB BUT NOW WHERE ADDING ALCOHOL TO THE PROBLEM. I FEEL THERE SHOULD BE A LAW OUT THERE TO BAND ALCOHOL FROM ANY PUBLIC SERVICING AGENT DFD132

  • #2
    Drinking well at my dads station they had a hall then they got a new station. but anyways there was beer back there and they drank it but they did not ride the trucks. i remeber one time when they were all drinking back in the hall and i was like 10 i went inside the engine room and took there helments and put them in a spot where they wouldnt look for them just so they would not get on the truck

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    • #3
      I know this idea is not very popular but I agree. The time for the good ol boy party at the fire hall has passed. It is time to grow up and be responsible adults. There is too much at stake to allow anyone to be impaired in public while representing the emergency service. If they are not a hazard to the public they are at least a black eye for the dept.

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      • #4
        Our stations are totally dry.

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        • #5
          Here is an alcohol related story that will make you shake your head............

          Last summer my volly dept. held a boot drive at a very busy intersection in town. To make a long story short.........one of the junior men (the type of guy that always tries to be the center of attention) decided he would have a frosty beverage in hand while collecting money from the generous motorists.

          Fortunately, word of this never got back to the "city fathers"!!!!

          His excuse..........."It was in a paper bag!"

          Why is that there is always one of "these" on every department?

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          • #6
            Our department has a zero tolerance policy for members. If you show up under the influence you will be disciplined severely, also you will be handed over to the PD for any related charges (DUI ect...) I am a younger member of a old volunteer fire department, and have heard the stories, and the we have done it in the past. But we did not have SCBA in the 50's and no one argues about them now

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            • #7
              Gone are the days of Drinking Beer at the Fire Hall until the Sun Came Up --- Getting on the Engine or the Truck 1/2 or 3/4 Shot in the *** --- Is it a Good thing ? I think So....My Station is Not a Dry one {We do have a beer tap } But Our Chief also has the Zero Tolerance for Drunks on the Trucks --- In our 80 plus years of existance we have never had a member or members arrive drunk or leave the fire hall on truck or his POV Drunk --- There really is no room for alcohol in the Fire Service but it is something we'll never shake it will always be there --- Even I suck back a few at the Hall after work on tuesday nights --- But I think we all know or should at least know when enough is enough

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              • #8
                I disagree... do the words "under the influence" or "legally drunk" mean anything? You may "suck back a few" and feel fine(and be a 0.07), show no real signs of consumption, until something happens, and you are now having your BAC analyzed, then that measly 0.08 suddenly replaces 13 as your unlucky number... why chance it? And, meaning no discredit to your staements, I hardly believe that in that amount of time, noone has EVER left or been on a piece sloshed. That just seems a little too good to be true. Please understand that I'm not trying to call you a liar, but have you personally watched every individual member for the past 80 years?


                A concerned, careful beer lover.
                Now... where's my Guinness?

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                • #9
                  Our city has an ordinance that prohibits alcoholic consumption in or on any public property, which includes the fire station.

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                  • #10
                    I can't believe this is an issue!!! I have never heard of a firehouse that allowed booze. Is this an east coast thing? There is a time and a place for a cold one and the firehouse is not the place.

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                    • #11
                      I agree with some of the other guys in saying that I can hardly believe that this is even an issue. When you think about it, would you want some retard that thought he could hold his liquor trying to fight your house fire. I think this job is dangerous enough without having to throw a new wrench in the works. If you can't wait until your shift is over to have a drink.....maybe you need to think about a new line of work.

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                      • #12
                        I know what Brian Dunlap is saying..there are a few firehouses near me that have Bars inside..but the few times I've visited..there is no beer in the firehouse..the only time there is beer on tap is if there is a Department function also when there is a department function anyone wants to drink fine..those who dont drink are put on Crew...we have 8 guys who Do not drink at department functions.if we get a run then those 8 guys gear up and go to the call...now this is how it is for all of the 5 Co's in that town...now this is a volunteer town..Drinking is not tolerated in the firehouses and they are VERY VERY VERY STRICT on when there is beer on tap..so far no problems..and they plan to keep it that way...

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                        Andrew
                        South Amboy, New Jersey
                        EMS Cadet in NJ
                        "EMTS DON'T DIE THEY JUST STABILIZE"

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                        • #13
                          Fireman Phil- Yes, I believe it is an east coast thing. In Southeast Pa. and much of New Jersey, it is not an uncommon thing at all for a volunteer station to have a bar in the rec room/tv room- whatever you want to call it. I believe it to be a leftover of the past, one that the "good old boys"and the dinosaurs refuse to let go of. It is exactly that- the past. In my opinion, any fire department that continues to allow this is not only defacing themselves, and the fire service in general, but additionally, they are opening themselves up to massive liability!!!

                          Something else that is disturbing- after parades, wet-downs, etc....Beer flows like water around here. Members in uniform drink like fish, and act accordingly. I have seem beer-induced fist fights, verbal arguments, water fights, guys generally acting like schmucks. But then again, beer + firefighters = Schmuck. What really turned my stomach one time was a guy in uniform clearing out his stomach on a civilians lawn near a fire station that was having a truck housing. Nice, huh??

                          I have even caught one guy at work indulging one summer afternoon when he pulled his car in to wash it- he was sneaking a few "cold ones." He offered me one, and my reply was "No thank you, and I would appreciate it if you stopped right now yourself.." He laughed at me and asked what business it was of mine?? My answer was "Because I have to ride on the truck company that you are driving, idiot...if you want to continue this debate, we can do so in the Captains office..???" He stopped.

                          I am sorry if some of you out there dont like my views. I got bashed a few months back for views when a forum was presented about a firefighter being arrested for DUI and he thought he deserved lieniency. I am sorry- I have a ZERO tolerance for alcohol and the fire service. What you do on your own time is your business.

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                          "Loyalty above all else, except honor."

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                          • #14
                            We occasionally had someone stash a case of beer in the kitchen fridge, but no one ever (to my knowledge) went on a call after drinking. They would have been suspended if they had. Being vollies, they'd pop a few after coming back from a call (maybe).

                            Back then, the chances of having a call back to back was pretty rare. Now they run more than 1000 calls a year, so the practice has faded away with the Christmas party.

                            It died when the third year in a row, they got a worker when 3/4 of the dept was plastered. They always had "designated" people who either didn't drink, or volunteered to do coverage. The party was usually at a country club just up the street from the station. Everybody went, they just didn't all drink. After missing the "best one of the year" a couple of years in a row, nobody wanted to drink (and miss out) anymore. The party became a gift exchange in the bay instead.

                            We never did have a "tap", since the buildings were "county" property.

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                            • #15
                              phil, to be more accurate the tap in the station is a North East thing. Down South, in the "Bible Belt" if the local churches got wind of that there was drinking at the fire station, us rural volunteer departments would loose donations and respect from the community that we survive on. I'm not going to say that there has never been any alcohol consumed in the fire house, but we do not alllow it, and one member that was caught got suspended for it.

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