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  • Rescue101
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    It's all in what you think you need.I haven't needed an air switch in 38 years under the mask.My regulator only dangles if I want it to,and when I'm not using it,it's either hooked to it's belt clip or my mask depending on circumstance.At the end of thirty(30) years come back to this forum and tell me what your mask cost to maintain per year.I'd agree that my Scba is important to my life and based on thirty years with a single product line I'll put my life with the BEST,Scott! Best of luck with yours,if they even make it to thirty.Since going to the 2.2's we've NEVER had an operational failure.And we've got packs out of the first issue of 2.2's which are approaching 30 years on the line.Regulator repairs to these are simple too but we've never had to service one between "benches",just clean and go. T.C.

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  • gatoremt
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    Originally posted by FireLtParaM View Post
    After having attended the North Carolina Breathing Equipment and Survival School for over a week I would have to say that the Interspiro packs do not hold up and the fresh air switch isn't worth its weight in sand. The mechanism for which to actually get the assembly off of the mask is very difficult if you actually wanted to take it off. No offense to people who like the ambient air option, however, I prefer the open hole that Scott provides to breathe through should your regulator not be attached. I would have to say that the interspiro voice amp/PASS system are very nice as far as being loud but that's the only option I liked about them. Also a "dangling" regulator is part of the business. Sure you could clip it into the regulator belt clip but who has time for this? I haven't found it to be a problem for myself on the fireground/training. Sure its not the best thing for maintenance of the regulator but look at the training we're doing in the fire service these days. Have we ever cared about the maintenance of equipment while we're on the fireground? Not at all. Again if we took the time to worry about these things on the fireground nothing would ever get done. 2cents

    And to stay on topic I <3 Scott Airpaks. That is all.
    I have found that the regulator is very easy to take off. You unscrew 1 screw and move the face cone over to the side and pull the regulator out. It is not that hard. I am sorry that you found you had problems with the ambient air option. What kind of problems did you have? My Volunteer Department has them and we have not had any problems with them.
    And dangling regulators thank goodness are not a part of our department. I say that taking care of your SCBA is VERY important since it could save my LIFE. just my 2 cents. I guess that is why we have so many choices in the SCBA area.

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  • eaglesrule1024
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    Originally posted by BCFD25 View Post
    well it looks like we are a little closer to the debut of the new airpak 75. Here is the link with the count down. http://www.futureairpak.com/
    I think part of the delay is they are still under going testing for the new nfpa update. so far none of the scba manufacturers have passed and they only have until nonember 1st i think. someone please correct me if im wrong on the date.
    that is weird i tried going to that site yesterday and i didnt get that i even created a new thread cause i didnt understand it.

    Rob

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  • BCFD25
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    Update

    well it looks like we are a little closer to the debut of the new airpak 75. Here is the link with the count down. http://www.futureairpak.com/
    I think part of the delay is they are still under going testing for the new nfpa update. so far none of the scba manufacturers have passed and they only have until nonember 1st i think. someone please correct me if im wrong on the date.

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  • FireLtParaM
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    After having attended the North Carolina Breathing Equipment and Survival School for over a week I would have to say that the Interspiro packs do not hold up and the fresh air switch isn't worth its weight in sand. The mechanism for which to actually get the assembly off of the mask is very difficult if you actually wanted to take it off. No offense to people who like the ambient air option, however, I prefer the open hole that Scott provides to breathe through should your regulator not be attached. I would have to say that the interspiro voice amp/PASS system are very nice as far as being loud but that's the only option I liked about them. Also a "dangling" regulator is part of the business. Sure you could clip it into the regulator belt clip but who has time for this? I haven't found it to be a problem for myself on the fireground/training. Sure its not the best thing for maintenance of the regulator but look at the training we're doing in the fire service these days. Have we ever cared about the maintenance of equipment while we're on the fireground? Not at all. Again if we took the time to worry about these things on the fireground nothing would ever get done. 2cents

    And to stay on topic I <3 Scott Airpaks. That is all.

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  • BCFD25
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    bump

    has scott released any info on these yet? i have seen an ad that said coming soon but nothing else and i couldnt find anything on their website.

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  • JRLloyd
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    I think the airpak will be availble soon.
    Last edited by JRLloyd; 02-08-2007, 09:47 PM.

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  • dfdapd
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    back to my point of the topic...does anyone know anything about what new air packs Scott is coming out with???

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  • HenryChan
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    50 is an awesome upgrade!

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  • JRLloyd
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    Originally posted by Rescue101 View Post
    JR,Gator is referring to brand X's regulators which have a "fresh air switch"and stay hooked to the mask(or can stay hooked)once donned.I've never needed that feature,never had a problem finding and hooking my regulator when needed,and I don't need that damned hose hooked up when I'm not on air.Nobody in this corner of the world uses Interspiro/ISI anyway so I don't believe it will cause any sleep loss.For long term service at minimum maintence,I'll put my Scott's up against those two any day.Let me know what they've cost you after a thirty year service life.I bet the Scott wins,hands down. T.C.
    Now I understand what gator was saying. As Bones said though, if you hook your regulator to the holder on your waist belt this shouldn't be a problem. Rescue101 brings up a great point about maintenance after the purchase. I'll be the first to admit that Scotts are not the least expensive of SCBA's. However, most departments will find that they will get their SCBA's really cheap and then end up spending a fortune on maintaining them.

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  • Rescue101
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    JR,Gator is referring to brand X's regulators which have a "fresh air switch"and stay hooked to the mask(or can stay hooked)once donned.I've never needed that feature,never had a problem finding and hooking my regulator when needed,and I don't need that damned hose hooked up when I'm not on air.Nobody in this corner of the world uses Interspiro/ISI anyway so I don't believe it will cause any sleep loss.For long term service at minimum maintence,I'll put my Scott's up against those two any day.Let me know what they've cost you after a thirty year service life.I bet the Scott wins,hands down. T.C.

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  • Bones42
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    Originally posted by gatoremt View Post
    I meant once you are no longer hooked to the face mask. The regulators I have seen are dangling all over the place. Unlike the ISI and Interspiro. The regulator is mounted to the face mask all the time.
    They are only dangling all over the place because the FF did not clip the regulator into the waist belt "clip".

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  • Fitguy51
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    I only used an ISI unit once, about 15 yrs ago, and it had a dangling connector to the mask but is was not as big as the Scott is today. I have used Scott all of my 37 yr career and have had not trouble. I remember the elephant trunk masks of old. We have come a long way, thats for sure.

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  • gatoremt
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    I meant once you are no longer hooked to the face mask. The regulators I have seen are dangling all over the place. Unlike the ISI and Interspiro. The regulator is mounted to the face mask all the time.

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  • lexfd5
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    Originally posted by JRLloyd View Post
    I'm not exactly sure what you are asking here? I have never seen or heard of a regulator "dangling" all over the place. Once you do the quarter turn and lock the regulator in to place it can't move.
    He maybe referring to the length of the new low pressure hose to the face-piece regulator. It is longer than the older models without the quick disconnect feature, so it has a habit of getting in the way.

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