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  • #16
    Who's not up for a little man lovin? A hit's a hit :-)

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    • #17
      Originally posted by DrParasite View Post
      and of course, engine company FFs and truckies shouldn't mate (you might get a rescue company FF as a result).
      You wont get a Rescue Co. FF- you get worse- a PARAMEDIC!
      "Loyalty Above all Else. Except Honor."

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      • #18
        Originally posted by BD6413 View Post
        This occured in the county where I used to work. An on duty night crew "got together" {rumor was either in the bus or the station bunk-room} Well the girl got pregnant. Once the word was out about the pregnancy and who the "daddy" was, his world was over resulting in a divorce from his legal wife. Her world and reputation became tarnished because of who she "hooked up" with.

        Baby is good looking though....{Thank-God she share's mom's genes} but will be the life long prodigy of a broken home all because of animalistic lust. -

        If you're that bad off that you need a release then I don't need to say it...Just take care of your-self but don't ruin others. Ever herd the phrase Don't Sh## where you eat ? apparently these two didn't.
        sorry dude, but your argument doesn't hold water. the problem wasn't that these two got together, or even that they ended up knocked up. the problem was that one of them was married.

        Again, people fool around all the time. people have sex all the time. the problem (at least as I see it) wasn't that these two were on the same FD, or even that they did it in the station (although i would sterilize the cot, bench, and anything else that they got frisky on). it's that one was married when they did it.

        The girl was stupid for fooling around with a guy who was married. The guy was stupid for not being able to keep his dick in his pants. Now both need to live with the consequences of their actions.

        and yes, the same thing happened on my former department too. and the above applies to them as well.

        but the fact that they did it at work is a minor thing when compared to the other "issues" with their relationship
        If my basic HazMat training has taught me nothing else, it's that if you see a glowing green monkey running away from something, follow that monkey!

        FF/EMT/DBP

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        • #19
          Originally posted by DrParasite View Post
          that means: firefighter and officers shouldn't get together. firefighters and probies shouldn't get together. chiefs and line officers shouldn't get together.
          Great......now I will never get promoted again!
          Jason Knecht
          Firefighter/EMT
          Township Fire Dept., Inc.
          Eau Claire, WI

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          • #20
            We have 2 Lts That are married with kids. Never seemed to be a problem.

            If people aren't stupid about it, there shouldn't even need to be a discussion.
            Get busy livin, or get busy dyin. - Shawshank Redemption
            IACOJ

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DrParasite View Post
              eh, I'll bite. if co-workers want to have sex (whether it be guy and girl, guy and guy, or girl and girl), who is anyone to say anything about it? The only time the department should get involved is if the relationship affects the job that be being done.
              Agreed - However, if you take the step, take the consequences.... good, bad or ugly....

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              • #22
                Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                I don't think my wife, or my crew's wives would appreciate us having sex.
                LOL Thats great!

                My husband and I are on the same department. Have been for the last 6 years. Never had any problems. He got an officer position, never had any problems. Now we are both officers, but he is a higher ranking officer and we don't have any problems.

                But thats just us, some people can't separate their professional lives and their personal lives.
                Lieutenant/EMT-B

                VSFFA Member

                "I'm a CCEMT-B."

                "Remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off."

                "A lack of effort will always lead to failure."

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by OlieCan View Post
                  If people aren't stupid about it, there shouldn't even need to be a discussion.
                  That is a great big IF!!! I'll bet more than 50% are so stupid about it to the point that you'd shake your head!

                  How many of you that think it's OK as long as no one gets caught are officers? Do you know the legal aspects of the types of power? I can't believe some people would even condone having sex in the firehouse. Just plain stupid!!

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by scvfd412 View Post
                    But thats just us, some people can't separate their professional lives and their personal lives.
                    And neither will you if you hit a rough patch! (I hope that doesn't ever happen)But, everyone wants to say, "no we're different!" Trust me I've seen it happen more than once. Talk about getting ugly. And you the officer rarely hears the talking behind your backs about preferential treatments and the perception that a relationship comes with strings attached that affect 100% of your life.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by scfire86 View Post
                      I don't think my wife, or my crew's wives would appreciate us having sex.
                      Not at my old department,either.Most of the women were either married or otherwise engaged.
                      The only available females were various members daughters and only messed with if someone wanted to see"I have a shotgun,100 acres,a backhoe and my brother is the Sheriff"in action.
                      I've dated women at my "real job" and since none of them worked out,I have a strict"No fishing off the company pier"attitude about it.Yes,we are adults but if you break up,it WILL affect your work at the house and how the team works together.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by RFDACM02 View Post
                        And neither will you if you hit a rough patch! (I hope that doesn't ever happen)But, everyone wants to say, "no we're different!" Trust me I've seen it happen more than once. Talk about getting ugly. And you the officer rarely hears the talking behind your backs about preferential treatments and the perception that a relationship comes with strings attached that affect 100% of your life.
                        At the risk of sounding 'cliche', yeah, we are different. On a fire scene, it's almost like we don't even know each other. I have never expected any special treatment from him just because I'm his wife. And if there is a problem at home, I leave it at home. I know alot of you are like 'yeah right' but its true. My marriage and my job are totally separate. There is a time and a place for everything. And the fire scene is not the place to discuss him coming home a little too late and home is not the place discuss a mistake that might have been made on the fire scene. So, some people can do it and be okay, and others can't.
                        Lieutenant/EMT-B

                        VSFFA Member

                        "I'm a CCEMT-B."

                        "Remember, if the world didn't suck, we'd all fall off."

                        "A lack of effort will always lead to failure."

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by RFDACM02 View Post
                          That is a great big IF!!! I'll bet more than 50% are so stupid about it to the point that you'd shake your head!

                          How many of you that think it's OK as long as no one gets caught are officers? Do you know the legal aspects of the types of power? I can't believe some people would even condone having sex in the firehouse. Just plain stupid!!
                          Where did I say anything about having sex in the firehouse? I simply said it should be ok to have relationships between firefighters working at the same dept. I never said they could or should be able to have sex in the firehouse.
                          Get busy livin, or get busy dyin. - Shawshank Redemption
                          IACOJ

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                          • #28
                            Does this also go with lets say FF and Cops in the same town that decide to date? Not with the same agency yet run into each other on firegrounds or accident scenes?

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by scvfd412 View Post
                              At the risk of sounding 'cliche', yeah, we are different. On a fire scene, it's almost like we don't even know each other. I have never expected any special treatment from him just because I'm his wife. And if there is a problem at home, I leave it at home. I know alot of you are like 'yeah right' but its true. My marriage and my job are totally separate. There is a time and a place for everything. And the fire scene is not the place to discuss him coming home a little too late and home is not the place discuss a mistake that might have been made on the fire scene. So, some people can do it and be okay, and others can't.
                              Like I said, there are factors you probably cannot see. First is what everyone else thinks. Does everyone in your dept. agree that you two don't give each other preferential treatment. How about if one of you screwed up really bad, a firing or suspension offense? And I would agree the fire scene porobably is not the issue at all. How about around the station? Training, station duties? Are you two working as career firefighters in the same station? And as I said, things usually are tolerable until the relationship ends, then look how professioanl people are, using their kids, pets and money to get at each other. I truly mean no offense to you personnaly, but I think some things need to remain off limits for everyone's protection. It is a fire officers job to expect the unexpected and an unhealthy domestic dispute in the future can be avoided by not allowing relationships within the firehouse. I suppose I do see this a different issue in career depts vs. volunteer depts.

                              Oliecan: I didn't mean to tie the sex in the station comment to you. I was suprised at other comments that implied that it was OK as long as no one finds out.

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                              • #30
                                SCVFD, I had a very similar relationship back at my old dept, and mostly it did work as you describe. And worked very well... mostly. Other than being able to anticipate each other thoughts/actions on a scene - which also comes from working together over a long period of time - no one would have guessed without knowing that we were a couple.

                                Even when things changed between us, we still worked well on the field together and that carried on up till she finally left the dept.


                                However, personal relationships like that is not something that I would recommend as something to try. As for inter-agency relations, I dont really see a problem there, as neither of you are ever going to be in the other chain of command, except for specific incidents - maybe. And even then it should not really make much affect on things.

                                An old saying about "Birds of a Feather...."???
                                If you don't do it RIGHT today, when will you have time to do it over? (Hall of Fame basketball player/coach John Wooden)

                                "I may be slow, but my work is poor." Chief Dave Balding, MVFD

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                                Get it up. Get it on. Get it done!

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                                IACOJ member: Cheers, Play safe y'all.

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