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  • Cairns Helmets: N5A vs N6A

    So what is the difference between the New Yorker (N5A) and the Houston (N6A)? The N6A is NFPA certified, but why? Based on the MSA/Cairns literature, I can't see/tell a difference between the two.

  • #2
    Major diff is that the 6 has the poly impact cap and is NFPA. The 5 is only osha. Check with your dept - some places you cannot wear the 5.

    Also, some of the older 5's seem to have a longer brim in back.

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    • #3
      I have both!
      ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
      Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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      • #4
        Originally posted by CaptainGonzo View Post
        I have both!
        Two heads...err, lids, are better than one!
        Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
        IAFF Local 2339
        K of C 4th Degree
        "LEATHER FOREVER"
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        • #5
          I just had the N5Aredone to freflect the upcoming promo.. I'll take a pic as soon as I remember where the frack I put my digital camera....
          Last edited by CaptainGonzo; 01-03-2007, 11:10 PM.
          ‎"The education of a firefighter and the continued education of a firefighter is what makes "real" firefighters. Continuous skill development is the core of progressive firefighting. We learn by doing and doing it again and again, both on the training ground and the fireground."
          Lt. Ray McCormack, FDNY

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          • #6
            I think I'm gonna buy an N5A and give it a try. I want to see how it compares to the 6. I want a second lid to use when I'm teaching in the burn building anyway, and I refuse to use any of the dept issued salad bowls that I have.

            After all, you can never have too many lids, can you?!
            "Real" lids, that is!




            Kevin
            Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
            IAFF Local 2339
            K of C 4th Degree
            "LEATHER FOREVER"
            Member I.A.C.O.J.
            http://www.tfdfire.com/
            "Fir na tine"

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            • #7
              I've worn both N5's and N6's, not extensivly mind you. Maybe it was just the way it was adjusted, but I liked the N6A's fit much better. I haven't worn the N5 in a drill but I have worn the N6A in a burn trailer and loved it.

              *** Both helmets are my Dad's, I've just recently been issued a Ben2Plus
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              • #8
                Difference is a half lb heavier for the N6a, both have the same dimensions. N6a DOES not carry NFPA certification if you dont have goggles attached to it. The n6a also has an additional layer of leather.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jonnyirons2 View Post
                  Difference is a half lb heavier for the N6a, both have the same dimensions. N6a DOES not carry NFPA certification if you dont have goggles attached to it. The n6a also has an additional layer of leather.
                  I knew about the other things, but this is the first time I've ever heard about the 6 having an extra layer of leather. Why the extra leather?
                  Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
                  IAFF Local 2339
                  K of C 4th Degree
                  "LEATHER FOREVER"
                  Member I.A.C.O.J.
                  http://www.tfdfire.com/
                  "Fir na tine"

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fireman4949 View Post
                    I knew about the other things, but this is the first time I've ever heard about the 6 having an extra layer of leather. Why the extra leather?
                    I was wondering the same thing.....
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                    • #11
                      Thats what Cairns told me, I dont really know why. Go get a G5a and put a liner in it, thats what I want! its about half the weight of the n5a i wear now.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jonnyirons2 View Post
                        Thats what Cairns told me, I dont really know why. Go get a G5a and put a liner in it, thats what I want! its about half the weight of the n5a i wear now.
                        I'd love to have a G5A too! "The Ultimate lid."
                        Fire Lieutenant/E.M.T.
                        IAFF Local 2339
                        K of C 4th Degree
                        "LEATHER FOREVER"
                        Member I.A.C.O.J.
                        http://www.tfdfire.com/
                        "Fir na tine"

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                        • #13
                          you can still buy the G5A's brand new

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by BFDPerez View Post
                            you can still buy the G5A's brand new
                            thats what i wear

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                            • #15
                              If you work in a State with OSHA and get hurt with the G5 on be careful. It will probably be deemed your fault and along with the disability pension you lose will go your lawsuit as well!

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