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  • Dave1983
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    Originally posted by Res343cue View Post
    Just out of curiosity....

    What's on the rear of your apparatus for warning other then the SML-8? By chance a pair of red rotators in the upper zone?
    Exactly...

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  • scote3232
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    Originally posted by mcfd45 View Post
    Listen bub. You come on the site on the day after christmas and get your panties in a bunch because we have something bettrer to do then see what luke skywhacker is posting about. Then you go after nmfire for reminding you about this and you respond that you don't celebrate chirstmas, which is fine. You should still know that christmas is upon us (bright lights, nativity scenes, those annoying things that inflate and deflate by themselves.) and you should respect that people have better things to do. Then you get into a debate about why he doesn't go to some circlejerk whacker website. Big deal who cares about neanderthals that are so amused by flashing lights so much they put them on their POV. Then you tell res343cue that they need to stop crying like a chick. Smart real smart, so now you removed all doubt that you are a fool. So why don't you stop being choolish and bring something useful to the table.
    J
    *yawn*

    Go bother someone else if you don't have anything positive to say about the topic at hand and quit wasting bandwidth. Others have replied and I respect that, and I'm way over it and want to stop the bickering...please....quit bringing it up and piling on like you're some internet tough guy....

    BTW, and I'm not your bub.

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  • mcfd45
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    Listen bub. You come on the site on the day after christmas and get your panties in a bunch because we have something bettrer to do then see what luke skywhacker is posting about. Then you go after nmfire for reminding you about this and you respond that you don't celebrate chirstmas, which is fine. You should still know that christmas is upon us (bright lights, nativity scenes, those annoying things that inflate and deflate by themselves.) and you should respect that people have better things to do. Then you get into a debate about why he doesn't go to some circlejerk whacker website. Big deal who cares about neanderthals that are so amused by flashing lights so much they put them on their POV. Then you tell res343cue that they need to stop crying like a chick. Smart real smart, so now you removed all doubt that you are a fool. So why don't you stop being choolish and bring something useful to the table.
    J

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  • scote3232
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    Originally posted by Res343cue View Post
    I'm not thin skinned at all. It's just pointless for you to start throwing around accusations when you don't know the whole story, or what truely was going on. You obviously don't know all the details about what happened over there, so you shouldn't have started in on NM about it.

    Maybe I'm a chick, and that's why I'm crying? Nice one. Being a sexist is a great way to make an impression. Oh, and calling names and posting things like that is against the rules here. Perhaps you need to go re-read the TOS.

    Post reported, the WT deals with trolling.
    You need to re-read your initial post to me...then check yourself. I wasn't even directing anything towards you in the first place, yet you had to butt in. If this is a troll post, then maybe I need to get a new definition of what a troll is. I posted a legitimate post, and it got sidetracked....it happens, get over it.

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  • scote3232
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    Originally posted by nmfire View Post
    I don't have that paperwork in front of me at the moment. However I do specifically remember it. Having it come on or off automatically didn't matter. Using the device to make the candlepower requirement was specifically prohibited. I'm guessing this is because there is no way to assure it will be on in flash mode. The user can turn it to another mode that will not allow it to meet the requirements.



    Yes, lots of people had issues with me. I think i already said it but you aren't paying attention. Yes, I did **** off a lot of people over there. Because a lot of people over there are whacktastic losers beyond belief. Seriously, there are people there who drive around with blinking amber lights and pretend to be neighborhood police (just as one example...). I ****ed lots of those people off because I would contradict their twisted little mind's opinion.

    The reason I was on that forum was amongst the hundreds of morons, there were real technicians and intelligent people. When I needed information not readily available from a manufacturer, i could always find it there. Likewise, I was often able to provide the same kind of help to others. It is unfortunate there is such a core bunch of losers there too. So, if you saw people disliking me, it was probably because they were stupid to begin with. Do some research before you try calling people out based on something you vaguely remember from another forum a long time ago.
    Well, there are a lot of whacker people type on that board....which is why I rarely visit anymore. Back when they had the old board, it was much better. When I just visited the other day, it was horrible....and the board is run like nazis.

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  • Res343cue
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    Originally posted by Dave1983 View Post
    Ours are all amber without the independant ends, just the standard model SML-8. In "02, they met NFPA, which is why Im trying to find out when that changed, if it did.


    I just re-checked Federals site and the SML-8 is the one listed as NFPA compliant.
    Just out of curiosity....

    What's on the rear of your apparatus for warning other then the SML-8? By chance a pair of red rotators in the upper zone?

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  • Dave1983
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    Originally posted by Res343cue View Post
    The FedSig SignalMaster that can be built into the candlepower requirements on lighting packages is a six head TA with INDEPENDANT ends. What you get is two amber/red/blue whatever color lights on the very ends of the unit that are NOT part of the "LEFT" , "RIGHT" "CENTER OUT" , etc.

    Ours are all amber without the independant ends, just the standard model SML-8. In "02, they met NFPA, which is why Im trying to find out when that changed, if it did.


    I just re-checked Federals site and the SML-8 is the one listed as NFPA compliant.

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  • Res343cue
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    Originally posted by Dave1983 View Post
    If you find the paperwork again let me know. We are working on specs now for another rig and if what you say is the case, we have to change some things.

    Just a note, Federal still lists the Signalmaster as a rear amber option that meets NFPA if used with two red rotators (or flashers, strobes, LEDs) which is what we have (rotators). Perhaps they havent updated the information yet?
    The FedSig SignalMaster that can be built into the candlepower requirements on lighting packages is a six head TA with INDEPENDANT ends. What you get is two amber/red/blue whatever color lights on the very ends of the unit that are NOT part of the "LEFT" , "RIGHT" "CENTER OUT" , etc.

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  • firefighter1962
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    Defending against drivers that are not paying attention is impossible. Having a red warning light package that complies with NFPA 1901 and augmenting it with an arrowstick is definitely a good thing. IMO every fire apparatus should have one, whether NFPA formally recommends it or not.

    Stay Safe

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  • Dave1983
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    Originally posted by nmfire View Post
    I don't have that paperwork in front of me at the moment. However I do specifically remember it. Having it come on or off automatically didn't matter. Using the device to make the candlepower requirement was specifically prohibited. I'm guessing this is because there is no way to assure it will be on in flash mode. The user can turn it to another mode that will not allow it to meet the requirements.

    If you find the paperwork again let me know. We are working on specs now for another rig and if what you say is the case, we have to change some things.

    Just a note, Federal still lists the Signalmaster as a rear amber option that meets NFPA if used with two red rotators (or flashers, strobes, LEDs) which is what we have (rotators). Perhaps they havent updated the information yet?

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  • Res343cue
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    Originally posted by scote3232 View Post

    There is no way you are in the Fireservice....for you have thin skin. You're getting all up in arms over a post in a thread and crying like a little girl on a public forum. You need to grow some thick skin and pick your battles bub.
    Maybe you're a chick, and that's why you're crying. If that is the case, then I understand. Maybe you are PMS'ing.
    I'm not thin skinned at all. It's just pointless for you to start throwing around accusations when you don't know the whole story, or what truely was going on. You obviously don't know all the details about what happened over there, so you shouldn't have started in on NM about it.

    Maybe I'm a chick, and that's why I'm crying? Nice one. Being a sexist is a great way to make an impression. Oh, and calling names and posting things like that is against the rules here. Perhaps you need to go re-read the TOS.

    Post reported, the WT deals with trolling.

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  • mcfd45
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    Capt Gonz, I am unfamiliar with this LODD. From what I gathered in a short time is that a young firefighter died in a flashover? Playing the role as a "victim" in a live burn. I would like to know more about this, please tell me more. I wasn't in the fire service when this happened and I know nothing about this but I would like to.
    J

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  • MarcusKspn
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    This reminds me of the KIWI TV clip about Fire Truck colors:

    "Red Trucks/Green Trucks, we found out that people like to hit them equaly."

    All the lights in the world will save you from the guy that is paying attention!

    But they will not do any good against the person that is:

    Drunk/Sleeping/Passed Out/Texting on the Cellphone/Reading the Newspaper/Putting on the mascera/Looking at the radio to find the station/Checking out the hot girl that is walking down the street/Rubbernecking/Just spilled coffee in his crotch/etc,etc,etc.

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  • CaptainGonzo
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    Originally posted by mcfd45 View Post
    So I find this to be ironic. We will go to 15 pages on the highway 80 thing because we support the chief standing up for his guys being safe. But when this comes up we are not as supportive? I agree the NFPA is being the mouthpiece of the companies that build our equipment. But have they really ever passed any standard that wasn't to help protect FFs? Even if they make money of it they are still trying to help keep us alive. Just my opinion.
    J
    NFPA 1403: standard for live fire training. Search for threads about "Lairdsville" on this site, you'll catch my drift.

    NFPA 1500: standards firefighter safety
    NFPA 1710:staffmng standards for career fd's
    NFPA 1720: staffing standards for call/volunteers fd
    NFPA 72: the fire alarm code
    NFPA 13: the sprinkler code

    That's just off the top of my head, before having my morning dose of java...

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  • nmfire
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    Yes. We have trucks that are 15 years old with traffic advisers on them. They are not flat-out prohibited. It is just that they can not be factored into the minimum candlepower requirements.

    It should also be noted that no apparatus manufacturer just arbitrarily puts lights on a truck. The department ordering the truck is responsible for picking what goes on them.
    Last edited by nmfire; 12-27-2006, 03:15 AM.

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