Liquid Carryon Ban

[emtbff927]

Scary. Even in slow-mo. the watermelon blew apart faster than I could see...and that's just with a tiny bit of the stuff.

The device looks like something that can be prepared at home, then carried on without a liquid. Looks to be virtually undetectable today, even with the liquids ban.

[nyckftbl]

sorry to hijack the thread, but is anyone else having problems? I know the Lt is the one who started this thread, yet his post shows up second, after a reply. It had the wrong time, as well.

[E229Lt]

Liquid Carryon Ban

The FAA banned all liquid carryons for a VERY short time. It seems people found this action too much of an inconvenience. The link below shows the power of a drop of Binary Explosive.

Note: it does not disclose the materials used (or I wouldn't post it).

http://www.dump.com/okuue/

[KenNFD1219]

The liquids ban would not stop this type of device from being used. Most of todays airline security is based on the tactics used;

Someone made a shoe bomb: everyone gets their shoes checked

A group tries to make a liquid explosive: no liquids on the plane

Your share a name with a terrorist: you get special treatment (TSA assumes terrorists fly under their real names or known aliases)

None of todays security would stop a terrorist from changing the target from an aircraft to a train, subway, ferry boat, or shopping mall.

[ChicagoFF]

Great, now we have to ban watermelons ......... the terrorists have won.

[Lewiston2FF]

Ya, I agree Ed. In fact that same thought came to my mind while still in the airport, while I was eating breakfast yesterday. And no doubt on Zip-loc too. I'll just bet those guys are just rolling around in the new "sales". Wonder if they are planning to amend their sales slogan?

"Zip-loc bags. 9 out of every 10 Airlines recommend Zip-loc for your personal toiletries."

(ya ok.. this is probably why I didnt take on a career in marketing LOL)

Its better than "Zip-loc bags. 9 out of every 10 Airlines recommend Zip-loc to put your s#!t in."

[MalahatTwo7]

Actually I just got home from an "international" flight to Canada. At Dulles, they required that liquid or gel products not be in greater quantity than 4 oz bottles, and if they were in your hand/carry on baggage, it had to be removed from the baggage, placed in a large zip-loc bag, and then handed over separately for x-ray scanning, just like your shoes and coats. I was smart enough not to have much with me, and made sure that my shaving kit was carried in my checked bag. My carry-on stuff had NOTHING that gave cause for concern at either Dulles or Ottawa, unfortuantely the pocket snaps and my belt did cause some interest. But only the very smallest interest. Removing my belt to be scanned at Dulles and submitting to having the wand passed over me about a dozen times in Ottawa solved both problems without incident. The Ottawa guys asked me what electrical devices I had in my checked baggage: cell phone, PDA and chargers, that satisfied them easy enough.

Overall, though it was fairly simple and only just slightly slower than my previous trips to get through the security geeks.

[NJFFSA16]

I always wonder...as I enjoy the meal in the forward section of the cabin....what I couldn't do with a fork...as opposed to the metal knife they have removed from the trays...replaced with a plastic one. Is it not just as easy to somehow fashion a weapon with the steel fork?

The makers of ZipLock 1 gallon baggies must be cashing in on this follie

[MalahatTwo7]

Ya, I agree Ed. In fact that same thought came to my mind while still in the airport, while I was eating breakfast yesterday. And no doubt on Zip-loc too. I'll just bet those guys are just rolling around in the new "sales". Wonder if they are planning to amend their sales slogan?

"Zip-loc bags. 9 out of every 10 Airlines recommend Zip-loc for your personal toiletries."

(ya ok.. this is probably why I didnt take on a career in marketing LOL)

[RoughRider]

sorry to hijack the thread, but is anyone else having problems? I know the Lt is the one who started this thread, yet his post shows up second, after a reply. It had the wrong time, as well.

Same here.....

[DeputyChiefGonzo]

Great, now we have to ban watermelons ......... the terrorists have won.

The latest "terrorist" on the no fly list....

Gallagher.

[Dalmatian190]

So, what are they going to do when they start suffocating people with the 1 gallon zip-loc baggies?

[MalahatTwo7]

So, what are they going to do when they start suffocating people with the 1 gallon zip-loc baggies?

".. S'uze me Sir. Is that a Zip-loc bag in your hand, or are you just happy to see me?"

[hwoods]

Trouble Brewing.................

I can see it now..... "Excuse me sir, but what is in that container?".... "I'm a Firefighter, and that is a pint of Guiness....." "Sorry sir, no liquid......" Next day's headline news story - FIREFIGHTER DESTROYS AIRPORT SINGLEHANDEDLY. Man, they don't know what's coming.....

[MalahatTwo7]

Which is why I try to refrain from buying anything or bringing anything that might even slightly slow me down when I fly. Although it is always a tough go when the Customs Agent asks "Sir do you have anything to declar?"

(in my best Southern, of course ) "Why Sir. I do declare it is a beeaauutttifffuull day outside."

NO I've never said it but that doesn't stop me from thinking it everytime I go through.