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  • #16
    Originally posted by RspctFrmCalgary
    As far as I know, the guest issue is a computer glitch with registration. If I'm understanding the process correctly, a person registers and can then post. They only show as guests until some mysterious electronic thingy makes them "unguests". I don't believe that anyone on the FH team actually review or approve individual registrations. I could be wrong, but I don't think "guests" in the real sense can post.
    I do believe you are correct. It would be much easier for the FH WT to fix the glitch with the registration programming. IMHO guest should be allowed to view post but should not be allowed to start a thread or reply to a post. Once the guest moves on to become a member if they are spewing garbage "we" can simply ignore them.

    Originally posted by RspctFrmCalgary
    I'd hate it of course, because then I couldn't take part.
    So would the rest of us who appreciate the support and understanding that you show all public safety workers.

    Originally posted by Thaddie
    If we do create a private or restricted access forum on fh.com, it would give some of us the piece of mind that the person you are talking to on the other end of the keyboard is truely a firefighter or emergency service person. (THINK OF IT, no more Chool's and/or other nerdy trolls )
    I'm not really in favor of a private "firefighter's only forum" for a variety of reasons.
    1.) Some who post here may not be a FF but still provide valuable information on relavent topics such as apparatus, pumps, and other technical issues.
    2.) Chool's, trolls, mutt's, and other abominations of legitamet posters exist only because "we" allow them to. For example the rash of conspiracy theorist that have currently invaded the forums are still around because "we" responded to their post. Once these types of post are found then one member should reply to the post simply warning other members of a troll alert and that the post and poster has been reported to the web team. If no one else responded then either the WT would handle it or the troll would starve to death. Either way we win.
    3.) What happens to those who have access to the private area but for what ever reason are no longer a member of a dept? Who notifies the WT? What about retiree's and those that are in between depts?
    4.) We don't need a private area to ensure that we are talking to a "real firefighter" it's been my expierence that the phony one's don't last to long and are usually exposed quite quickly.
    5.) And lastly if we seperate ourselves from the public how long does anyone think it will take before someone suggest the idea that there be seperate private forums for career and volunteer's. I can think of several posters on here that would love to do that very thing.

    Just my thoughts on it.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jlcooke3
      I'm not really in favor of a private "firefighter's only forum" for a variety of reasons.
      1.) Some who post here may not be a FF but still provide valuable information on relavent topics such as apparatus, pumps, and other technical issues.
      2.) Chool's, trolls, mutt's, and other abominations of legitamet posters exist only because "we" allow them to. For example the rash of conspiracy theorist that have currently invaded the forums are still around because "we" responded to their post. Once these types of post are found then one member should reply to the post simply warning other members of a troll alert and that the post and poster has been reported to the web team. If no one else responded then either the WT would handle it or the troll would starve to death. Either way we win.
      3.) What happens to those who have access to the private area but for what ever reason are no longer a member of a dept? Who notifies the WT? What about retiree's and those that are in between depts?
      4.) We don't need a private area to ensure that we are talking to a "real firefighter" it's been my expierence that the phony one's don't last to long and are usually exposed quite quickly.
      5.) And lastly if we seperate ourselves from the public how long does anyone think it will take before someone suggest the idea that there be seperate private forums for career and volunteer's. I can think of several posters on here that would love to do that very thing.

      Just my thoughts on it.
      I agree 100% I am a new volunteer who reads more than post, I am learning every time I log on. What exactly would you need to discuss in a private area that cannot be discussed openly? I appreciate the knowledge and ideas I have picked up so far. Idiots are everywhere and will continue to be, if they weren't we wouldn't need as many FF/EMS folks!! Thanks!

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      • #18
        I am not really sure I am in agreement here. I understand the concept and the reasoning behind the suggestion, but as Sheri has pointed out more than a few of those who meet the criteria of "Mutt" or "S.Disturber" are actually memebers of the fire community. That said ......
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        • #19
          This brings up another point. Some forum software allow for a forum (such as firefighting discussion) to be set up so everyone can read but only "authorized users" can post... Then again, you folks are right, logistics sort of rule this out.
          Firefighter
          Eureka District Fire Department

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          • #20
            We need better leaders

            Too much and for too long we seem to have surrendered personal excellence and community values in the mere accumulation of material things. Our gross national product now is over $800 billion a year.

            But that gross national product, if we judge the United States of America by that, counts air pollution, and cigarette advertising, and ambulances to clear our highways of carnage. It counts special locks for our doors, and the jails for people who break them. It counts the destruction of redwoods and the loss of our natural wonder in chaotic sprawl. It counts napalm and it counts nuclear warheads, and armored cars for the police to fight the riots in our cities. It counts Whitman's rifle and Speck's knife, and the television programs which glorify violence in order to sell toys to our children.

            Yet the gross national product does not allow for the health of our children, the quality of their education, or they joy of their play. It does not include the beauty of our poetry or the strength of our marriages, the intelligence of our public debate or the integrity of our public officials. It measures neither our wit nor our courage, neither our wisdom nor our learning, neither our passion nor our devotion to our country.

            It measures everything, in short, except that which makes life worthwhile. And it can tell us everything about America - except why we are proud that we are Americans.

            Robert F Kennedy Quoted three months before he was assassinated .

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            • #21
              The best way to fix this problem is for the FH.Com people to recruit a few volunteer forum admins from the respected regulars to help police the forums. They obviously have there hands full and don't have the time to do it enough.
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              • #22
                Test to see if I can post
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                • #23
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                  Last edited by Nine3Probie; 07-28-2013, 05:58 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Back to the real vs fake firefighters...

                    I have been a poster here for 5 years
                    2 weeks ago, I became a paid subscriber.
                    A few days later, someone phoned the house, representing FH and asked my Husband questions about me and my fire service.

                    Maybe they are starting to check out people?
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                    I am willing to learn.

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                    • #25
                      interesting. When I signed up, I was never contacted. Oh well...
                      Firefighter
                      Eureka District Fire Department

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Thaddie
                        interesting. When I signed up, I was never contacted. Oh well...

                        When you resistered did you fill out the application as well?

                        If not then your application is pending, awaiting the rest of the info.

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                        • #27
                          I'm sorry... Having a "private forum" sounds a lot like the wackers who want to use 10-codes so that we can have "secrets" from the scanner-listening public. Maybe I'm wrong, but nothing we post here is secret... Thus, there is no reason to have a secret forum.
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                          • #28
                            Secret Forum

                            The moment you tell anyone your secret it no longer is a secret-so yes I am in favour of secret forums--but don't tell anyone.

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                            • #29
                              I did not necessairly mean a "secret" forum, I should have rephrased my opening post to say "posting restricted" forum. Again I am only trying to spark ideas, not create forum SOP's
                              Firefighter
                              Eureka District Fire Department

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Thaddie
                                Again I am only trying to spark ideas, not create forum SOP's
                                What, you didn't get the memo? You ARE responsible for creating the forum SOPs.
                                Do it because you love it, not because you love being seen doing it.

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