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  • #16
    In the old hand drawn and bucket days, some cities would place fire sheds strategically throughout the town. They would hold ladders, hooks and tools needed for firefighting. The idea finally failed as people would "borrow" ladders from the cache and not return them. This lead to the first hook and ladder companies... which turned into truck companies. Don't know if this is part of the story of service ladder trucks, but it sure adds to the idea.
    ~Drew
    Firefighter/EMT/Technical Rescue
    USAR TF Rescue Specialist

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    • #17
      Originally posted by hwoods View Post
      DAMN........ And all this time, I've been thinking that a Service Truck is that utility body pickup that the Shop guy brings out when something breaks down on a run....
      I think you guys refer to them as "special service." I know I hear the term a lot on your dispatches. I get the impression it can be either a truck or a squad.

      As for the term "service ladder truck," I've almost always heard the term "city service ladder truck" used.
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      • #18
        Yep.........

        Originally posted by tree68 View Post
        I think you guys refer to them as "special service." I know I hear the term a lot on your dispatches. I get the impression it can be either a truck or a squad.

        As for the term "service ladder truck," I've almost always heard the term "city service ladder truck" used.


        Several Answers to questions posed earlier.....

        1. The "Cary" Referred to is Cary, NC.......... The FD web page on the City's website shows the Mack referred to above....

        2. Everything that I've been able to dig up fits in with what Capt Oldtimer said earlier. "City Service Ladder Truck" was the first descriptive term used back in the Hand or Horse Drawn era.

        3. Many Dispatch agencies in the Mid Atlantic refer to any Ladder or Rescue Company as a "Special Service" Company......
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        • #19
          Originally posted by hwoods View Post
          DAMN........ And all this time, I've been thinking that a Service Truck is that utility body pickup that the Shop guy brings out when something breaks down on a run....
          it IS in La,Read the LIST,hehe T.C.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by EFD840 View Post
            If you're talking ISO requirements, I think the Lt's answer is going to be pretty close. If you don't have an aerial vehicle, the equipment carried on another vehicle (other than an engine that's already been counted towards your pumping requirements) can be counted towards your truck company requirements. A good example is a heavy rescue. ISO doesn't care one whit about a department's technical rescue capabilites but most rescues carry ladders, forcible entry tools, saws, and various other truckie tools. If you've got one and it goes to your structure fires, in ISO's eyes you've got a service company. If ISO says you need a stick and you don't have one, the credit won't be the same but it will still help.
            This is the answer that makes the most sense to me, at least from an ISO standpoint (or PIAL, in Louisiana's case).


            Louiaiana Property Insurance Rating systgem still requires a "service" truck at each station. All the equipment required can be on a rescue, ladder or even on a tanker (we have one tanker that carries all the "service truck" equipment for that station.

            Equjipment includes:
            (6) SCBA and (6) spare bottles
            Chainsaw
            K-12 Saw
            Acetylene Torch
            (4) Pike poles at least 4' in length
            PPV Fan
            (8) Salvage Covers
            Generator and Lights
            A few other odds and ends

            At one station, the heavy rescue is the service truck. At another it's the mini-pumper as it carries all of the above. At a third it's the light rescue. A fourth it's a stand alone service truck (pickup) and at the fifth it's the tanker
            That about sums it up. Any vehicle that carries the above equipment (and isn't being counted as a responding engine) gets credit as a "Service" apparatus, whether it's a rescue truck, a pickup truck, an old panel van, or whatever. Any structure fire response should have a service truck included in the first alarm to receive credit (the way our system is interpreted, anyway)

            Now, if your district has a certain number of buildings above a certain height (3 or more stories, I believe), an actual ladder truck also has to be part of the response. However, if you don't happen to have enough such buildings to require a ladder truck, but happen to own one anyway, you could outfit it with service company equipment and have it respond as a "service/ladder" company. That meets the requirement for a service company.

            That's the first thing I thought about when I read the question, anyway.
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            Paincourtville Volunteer Fire Department
            Paincourtville, LA

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