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  • Frmboybuck
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    My theory is if the cig is on top of the papers, crumpled or not, you will get nothing 99% of the time. Heat rises and fire burns up. Now put the papers on top and you have fire. There will always be that chance that it will start the papers on fire...Conditions would have to be near perfect for that though

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  • mcaldwell
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    Originally posted by FlyingKiwi
    Do you stomp on the cigarette with rubber or leather boots these days?

    One needs to check these things out carefully.
    Depends on the make and brand.

    If it's a lowly cigarette, use your rubbers so as not to soil your leathers.

    If it's a fine cigar however, hand rolled on the thighs of young virgins, only the finest leathers will do.

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  • FlyingKiwi
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    Do you stomp on the cigarette with rubber or leather boots these days?

    One needs to check these things out carefully.

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  • fireman4949
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    Originally posted by doughesson
    Is it in a boat?With a goat?
    ...Sam I am.

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  • doughesson
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    Originally posted by CaptainGonzo
    Is it inside or outdoors?

    Is it on a concrete floor, dirt floor, wood floor, carpeting, table or other kind of furnishing?
    Is it in a boat?With a goat?

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  • parkerx209
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    I appreciate the help, all! I will report back to you on Mon. with what my officer tells me.

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  • Bones42
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    If it's one of the NY "Safe" cigarettes, it had better not start a fire.

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  • MemphisE34a
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    Originally posted by parkerx209
    one of the officers on the command staff where i volunteer wanted us to answer some questions... i'm stumped on a few such as...

    If a newspaper were crumpled or laying flat and a glowing cigarette were placed upon it, would it ignite?

    I was thinking it probably wouldn't because there isn't enough oxygen underneath the paper to keep it burning...

    Stumped.
    The answer to both is no. Put the cigarette under the paper and.......YAHTZEE. Kinda the same as a couch. Put a lit cigarette on top of a seat cushion - you get typical small "cigarette style" burn holes, but no burning couch. Place the cigarette between the cushions - BINGO - couch ablaze.

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  • E229Lt
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    Originally posted by nmfire
    If it does catch on fire:

    1. Smooth bore or fog nozzle?
    2. Red engine or yellow engine?
    3. Lights & Siren in POV to respond?
    Drop a book on it. In this case it might work.

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  • fireman4949
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    You got me thinking, so I took some newspaper, crumpled it up and put it in the BBQ grill, I then put a lit cigarette in the middle of the pile, opened the vents and waited. About 15 minutes later, guess what I had...



































































    Hot dogs! And they were delicious!

    Seriously though, given the correct conditions, a cigarette will ignite newspaper. I have been to a fire that started from a cigarette that was tossed into a recycling container with nothing other than newspaper in it.




    Kevin
    Last edited by fireman4949; 10-05-2006, 06:18 PM.

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  • RyanEMVFD
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    Just ask the Mythbusters. They'll have the answer in under an hour and with a large explosion.

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  • MalahatTwo7
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    Originally posted by nmfire
    If it does catch on fire:

    1. Smooth bore or fog nozzle?
    2. Red engine or yellow engine?
    3. Lights & Siren in POV to respond?

    Just a Can, Man.

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  • nmfire
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    If it does catch on fire:

    1. Smooth bore or fog nozzle?
    2. Red engine or yellow engine?
    3. Lights & Siren in POV to respond?

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  • MalahatTwo7
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    Originally posted by superchef
    Does the paper support Republicans, Independents or Democrats?
    In all three cases would there be enough OXYGEN to support combustion? We know they all have enough hot air to blow around, but if the O2 content is not high enough....... no fire.

    On a more serious side of the answer, the crumpled paper would likely (given correct atmospheric conditions etc) to ignite faster than a flat piece, same as with a wooden fuel load. Check your IFSTA book, chapter on Fire Behaviour. Something about total surface area.... or something like that.

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  • CaptainGonzo
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    Originally posted by superchef
    Does the paper support Republicans, Independents or Democrats?
    Sherry... you had me rotflmao on that one!

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